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He should be sent to Columbus right *fargin'* now. Torts loves kinda guys.
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ToddM wrote:He looks like an alien wearing a skin suit in that picture, tho.

Also, here's hoping the Wild draft is nothing but Guerin going down a list of 18 year olds and playing "Gay or Not Gay?"
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What's he doing in Dallas?
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Taking measurements in Nill's office, hopefully.
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SaintAngerBH wrote:What's he doing in Dallas?
Pretty sure he still lives here. He was a scout for the Hurricanes but I believe stopped doing that last year. His son had been playing locally and is likely going to be playing for the Sioux City Musketeers in the USHL.
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Morissey inked 8 years at $6.1M per. The first sign of giving up on Laine and/or Connor? with $15M below the cap this season and $20M next season, given the RFAs to come, I wish the Jets good luck.
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Yeah, Chevaldayoff doesn't seem to go very well... Probably due to the Laine/Connor non-contract issues.
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A fair price for the guy who came in 10th in the Lady Byng voting last season.
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Guerin starting the descent into the ground already, I see.
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Just for comparison, Marchand makes around the same money and had 100 points last year. Spurgeon had 43.
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Benn makes $2 million more for like 7 more points.
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I think it’s a decent deal. Spurgeon is a very good d man, despite his size.
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ScubaSteve wrote:Benn makes $2 million more for like 7 more points.
Yeah, but he's a great leader.
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SaintAngerBH wrote:Just for comparison, Marchand makes around the same money and had 100 points last year. Spurgeon had 43.
But Spurgeon is a defenseman? That seems relevant.

Also, salaries go up.
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slaps wrote:
SaintAngerBH wrote:Just for comparison, Marchand makes around the same money and had 100 points last year. Spurgeon had 43.
But Spurgeon is a defenseman? That seems relevant.

Also, salaries go up.
Yeah, I realized my mistake after posting it. Oh well. :S
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At $7.5M/year it's in the high bracket for that type of players. Still a lot of $$$ but not shocking if you see that Ekblad is at $8M per, Subban at *fargin'* $9M per, Vlasic at $7M per and now Trouba at $8M per. The latter signing clearly set the tone for the uptrend of D-men contract value.

Spurgeon is a key piece in both PK, PP, is fast, has a quality first pass, technically brillant, not often injured and is reliable either defensively and offensively.

But in terms of size, weight and scariness, well...
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Math wrote:At $7.5M/year it's in the high bracket for that type of players. Still a lot of $$$ but not shocking if you see that Ekblad is at $8M per, Subban at *fargin'* $9M per, Vlasic at $7M per and now Trouba at $8M per. The latter signing clearly set the tone for the uptrend of D-men contract value.

Spurgeon is a key piece in both PK, PP, is fast, has a quality first pass, technically brillant, not often injured and is reliable either defensively and offensively.

But in terms of size, weight and scariness, well...

$8MM - $11MM is the market for top-pair to elite #1 defensemen. $6MM to $8MM looks like the market for top-4 that can be a top-2 now and then.
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Spurgeon's also almost 30, was a 25-point d-man for 90% of his career, and last year was both the first and only time he has ever cracked 40 points in a season.
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Yeah but I assume you have to overpay to get someone to stay in Minnesota.
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slaps wrote:Yeah but I assume you have to overpay to get someone to stay in Minnesota.
So imagine if, one day, there's a team here in Quebec City, with revenues in CAD and paychecks in USD...
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Let’s trade Honka to the Wild so he can pair with Spurgeon. His deserved salary would bring that line’s total to 8 million, making it more swallowable for the fans.
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1) Hurricanes have just traded Faulk to the Blues with a 5th rounder for Edmunston, a prospect, a 7th round pick and... nothing more.
2) Faulk immediately signed a 7-year/$6.5M per extension
3) Pietrangelo will be an UFA after the season
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I’d love to have Pietrangelo here. He’s got some miles on him now, but he’s the player people pretend Stephen Johns is.
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Definitely. He managed to maintain himself as a dominant piece while his former teammate Shattenkirk (that I thought to be more or less equivalent to him back in the Blues' days) completely faded once he joined the Caps.
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ScubaSteve wrote:I’d love to have Pietrangelo here. He’s got some miles on him now, but he’s the player people pretend Stephen Johns is.
He’s injured and his career is over?
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Eff St. Louis. They just got a lot better.
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We just got revenge for their beating us in the playoffs and that first preseason game. All evened up now.
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Honka for Laine.
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