2022-2023 NHL Regular Season Thread

[Math]

And playing in their old Civic Center? C'mon... Then, why not Caribou, Maine? Caribou Coyotes could be cool...

[SaintAngerBH]

They have to call them the Whalers if they go there. And the Hurricanes should wear their reverse retro jerseys when they visit the new Hartford Whalers.

[Math]

They have to call them the Whalers if they go there. And the Hurricanes should wear their reverse retro jerseys when they visit the new Hartford Whalers.

Or the New Hartford Whalers could wear a retro Jets 1.0 jersey.

[SaintAngerBH]

They have to call them the Whalers if they go there. And the Hurricanes should wear their reverse retro jerseys when they visit the new Hartford Whalers.

Or the New Hartford Whalers could wear a retro Jets 1.0 jersey.

[Archangel972]

Obviously it's a real longshot for Hartford to get an NHL team. I do wonder if they could really be called the Whalers though, animal rights activists would certainly be up in arms about it (though who isn't about anything these days?)

[Troy McClure]

Man, I think the hockey world isn't understanding this. I think Dubas set a "fine, I'll come back if you overpay me" price.

[Archangel972]

According to Shanahan the breakdown did not occur because of a gap in salary compensation expectations. Maybe that's just spin though.

[Math]

Now they are completely losing it lol.

[Troy McClure]

I’m telling you. The person running that account has been told their days are numbered.

[SaintAngerBH]

Wow. They rick rolled people 15 years after it stopped being a thing.

[Troy McClure]

Logan Cooley is expected to turn into a pretty awesome NHLer. He was drafted by the Coyotes but has decided to stay in school another year. In some ways, this is pretty crazy because he’s passing up a lot of money by choosing not to go to the NHL next season.

[slaps]

https://nypost.com/2023/05/20/nhl-nhlpa ... a-coyotes/

The future of the Coyotes franchise is in the same flux it has been since the team moved to Glendale, Ariz., in 2003, remaining the constant drain on hockey-related revenues it has been with the commissioner’s unwavering and zealous support for two decades.

This is Gary’s Folly.

And no, the league will not leap to relocate the franchise when doing so might eliminate a potential expansion destination that could produce an entry fee of between $750 million and $1 billion that would be shared exclusively among the owners.

Slap Shots has also learned that Coyotes players filed multiple complaints with the PA during the season about sub-standard travel, lodging and logistical issues that were in violation of the collective bargaining agreement.

For a commissioner that is incredibly sensitive to any perceived slight against the NHL or perception that the NHL is less than other pro sports in the North America market, it's wild to me how Bettman continues to tacitly or explicitly condone a franchise that is an embarrassment in all respects.

[The Frugal Gourmet]

You can give your two cents to the organization now on where you think they should move next:

[The Frugal Gourmet]

I didn't realize it would just show all the poll options. Failed rickroll.

[Troy McClure]

https://nypost.com/2023/05/20/nhl-nhlpa ... a-coyotes/

The future of the Coyotes franchise is in the same flux it has been since the team moved to Glendale, Ariz., in 2003, remaining the constant drain on hockey-related revenues it has been with the commissioner’s unwavering and zealous support for two decades.

This is Gary’s Folly.

And no, the league will not leap to relocate the franchise when doing so might eliminate a potential expansion destination that could produce an entry fee of between $750 million and $1 billion that would be shared exclusively among the owners.

Slap Shots has also learned that Coyotes players filed multiple complaints with the PA during the season about sub-standard travel, lodging and logistical issues that were in violation of the collective bargaining agreement.

For a commissioner that is incredibly sensitive to any perceived slight against the NHL or perception that the NHL is less than other pro sports in the North America market, it's wild to me how Bettman continues to tacitly or explicitly condone a franchise that is an embarrassment in all respects.

A crappy temporary arena situation is one I bet the PA could tolerate, but to then have the owner go cheap on stuff unrelated to the temporary arena is a sign this ownership group needs to be forced to sell.

[SaintAngerBH]

https://nypost.com/2023/05/20/nhl-nhlpa ... a-coyotes/

The future of the Coyotes franchise is in the same flux it has been since the team moved to Glendale, Ariz., in 2003, remaining the constant drain on hockey-related revenues it has been with the commissioner’s unwavering and zealous support for two decades.

This is Gary’s Folly.

And no, the league will not leap to relocate the franchise when doing so might eliminate a potential expansion destination that could produce an entry fee of between $750 million and $1 billion that would be shared exclusively among the owners.

Slap Shots has also learned that Coyotes players filed multiple complaints with the PA during the season about sub-standard travel, lodging and logistical issues that were in violation of the collective bargaining agreement.

For a commissioner that is incredibly sensitive to any perceived slight against the NHL or perception that the NHL is less than other pro sports in the North America market, it's wild to me how Bettman continues to tacitly or explicitly condone a franchise that is an embarrassment in all respects.

A crappy temporary arena situation is one I bet the PA could tolerate, but to then have the owner go cheap on stuff unrelated to the temporary arena is a sign this ownership group needs to be forced to sell.

As the Athletic reported in a prior article on this, there is absolutely no way Bettman allows any other team in the league to "temporarily" play in a 5,000 seat college rink. He's doing it because he's so desperate for this not to be a failure when it has been a failure for 20 years.

He can delay and dig his heels in all he wants. The Coyotes will bleed money if they stay, especially with a 5,000 seat arena and no plans for a new one anywhere.

[slaps]

A crappy temporary arena situation is one I bet the PA could tolerate, but to then have the owner go cheap on stuff unrelated to the temporary arena is a sign this ownership group needs to be forced to sell.

If I were the owner, I would be hitting the players with Maple Leafs-level amenities and extras to keep them happy.

[slaps]

[The Frugal Gourmet]

[slaps]

Down Goes Brown does articles from time to time looking at moments like that and examining the ripple impact. It's a lot of fun.

[Math]

We can also say that Florida definitely turned things when Keith Tkatchuk went out publicly about the softness of the Panthers, and Maurice losing it in Toronto, calling his players a bunch of *fargin'* pussies.

[ToddM]

Down Goes Brown does articles from time to time looking at moments like that and examining the ripple impact. It's a lot of fun.

Honka scoring that amazing goal against Phoenix ultimately delivered us Heiskanen.

[slaps]

Friedman has some really good insight on the Leafs (a “theory” for Friedman is basically he knows what happened but can’t get someone on the record or on background to confirm):

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/32 ... e-changes/

I have a theory.

I don’t believe Dubas wants Shanahan’s job, exactly. I don’t think he wants to “manage up,” as we say in the corporate world. That takes a special kind of patience not everyone can muster. He was happy to leave that to Shanahan.

But I do think he wanted to be seen as equal when it came to the hockey department. If you’re familiar with a corporate environment, there are four ways to be seen as equal to (or more equal than) others: production, title, salary or a seat at the table.

Shanahan re-iterated last week that it was his decision last summer not to extend Dubas. I’ve reported multiple times there was not enough ownership approval to do it, anyway. Whatever the case, Dubas’s production in 2022-23 convinced all parties he’d earned a new deal.

Title is irrelevant. Dubas wasn’t getting that, which he understood. Money? Well, we have an argument, although he was definitely receiving a raise. There are some who believe he wanted to get as close to Shanahan as possible so the board members would be forced to see them as equal. But, again, that’s in dispute and even Shanahan said, “I wouldn’t characterize it as breaking down over money. At that point, if I'm being honest, I had gotten to a different place about how I felt about the future of the Toronto Maple Leafs and what was best.”

What I do think he pushed for — hard — was a seat at the table.

[ScubaSteve]

His power play was about as successful as the Stars’

[slaps]

[Troy McClure]

Lots of teams who actually make money have to be getting pissed about still essentially operating under covid cap restrictions. These teams are having these artificial cap numbers hurting their rosters.

This cap situation is going to force the Leafs to trade one of their awesome forwards when they easily have the money to keep them all and still throw more money at goalie and defense.

I wonder where Gaglardi fits here. The Stars desperately need the cap to go up to alleviate the Benn/Seguin deals.

[The Frugal Gourmet]

I would guess the players wouldn't be too happy about it either.

[mookie1010]

The cap increasing at the request of rich owners is the leopard eaten face I needed today.

[The Frugal Gourmet]

The cap increasing at the request of rich owners is the leopard eaten face I needed today.

won't someone please think of the owners here!!

[slaps]

Lots of teams who actually make money have to be getting pissed about still essentially operating under covid cap restrictions. These teams are having these artificial cap numbers hurting their rosters.

This cap situation is going to force the Leafs to trade one of their awesome forwards when they easily have the money to keep them all and still throw more money at goalie and defense.

I wonder where Gaglardi fits here. The Stars desperately need the cap to go up to alleviate the Benn/Seguin deals.

The cap is tied to a hard percentage of "hockey related revenue" and isn't increasing because of all the escrow the players owe the league. So some teams are making money but the players "owe" the league, plus stuff like Arizona and their 5,000 seat arena drags down HRR.