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If you need someone who can vomit nonsense word salad at post game press conferences trying to justify poor team performances over and over again, a non-English speaker would be even better at that job than Bowness was.
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I'd be in favor of Savard without knowing much about his ability as a coach primarily because he isn't a retread. If it's between retreads, Cassidy is certainly the best of the bunch.
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ScubaSteve wrote:I would rather lose 2-0 than win 8-7.
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*f-bomb* me harder

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What idiot thinks Montgomery has any chance? He can become a head coach elsewhere, but not here. Especially if Nill is the one doing the hiring.
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I can’t find the option to select Hagman. This vote is rigged.
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No Wakaluk and living in the wrong country. I'm gonna pretend living in Fond du Lac, WI, and vote for Tinordi.
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Isn't Tinordi's most memorable moment as a Star getting his leg broken?
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dyhp wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 4:15 pm *f-bomb* me harder

I just don't see us being able to replace the most successful Stars coach of the last two decades -- Bowness.
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And his upcoming trade that led the Stars to get Zubov. So technically and medically, yes.
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wonko80 wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2022 4:17 pm What idiot thinks Montgomery has any chance? He can become a head coach elsewhere, but not here. Especially if Nill is the one doing the hiring.
There is this really weird set of Stars enthusiasts who idolize the guy for some reason and think he is the best coach the Stars have ever had.
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Well he's not really much less successful than the parade of other coaches we've had for decades. It's starting to become pretty apparent that it doesn't make much difference for this group.
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Ain't that the truth. Scotty Bowman couldn't make Jamie Benn productive again.
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We can still go for an alternative choice that follows the Montgomery route in promoting an assistant coach, a retread and a former Star:
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ScubaSteve wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:41 am Ain't that the truth. Scotty Bowman couldn't make Jamie Benn productive again.
I’m more interested in finding a coach who is willing to demote Benn than I am any who is going to pretend they can get more out of him. But I also kinda wonder if ownership only wants to hear big talk about how to make the horseshit good again.
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Although every coach has to win, it was pretty apparent our goal was to win only and whatever way possible.

Should the next coach have that goal? Because if that's his immediate goal, I don't think he will be successful.


But I do think there are some nice players coming.

The new coach has to have a small window to build something.
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The Frugal Gourmet wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:38 am Well he's not really much less successful than the parade of other coaches we've had for decades. It's starting to become pretty apparent that it doesn't make much difference for this group.
We had one non-defensive coach and we won the President's Trophy and then switched course because Kari let in a million goals in the playoffs.
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ToddM wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 11:42 am
The Frugal Gourmet wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:38 am Well he's not really much less successful than the parade of other coaches we've had for decades. It's starting to become pretty apparent that it doesn't make much difference for this group.
We had one non-defensive coach and we won the President's Trophy and then switched course because Kari let in a million goals in the playoffs.
And the team media people will point to how those Ruff teams missed the playoffs too often and didn't advance, so the super defensive approach is the only way to go because of the obviously repeatable bubble run.

I don't even think it's right to call Ruff an offensive coach. He spent a decade prior in Buffalo where they continually ran a Hitch-like conservative system. Ruff just adapted to what he had during his time here: several fast forwards who could score in transition, a pretty shitty defense, and suspect goaltending.

I don't think a Bowness approach would have helped those prior teams, and I also don't think that Ruff approach would have been more successful with these recent teams considering how Nill changed the build of the team to purposely make the forward group bigger and slower.
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Looks like I'm going to have to read a book on the Boer Wars to build up some good references for the team's performance next season.

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Welp, so much for being good.
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Godfuckingdamnit.
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Sigh. This *fargin'* team
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Troy McClure wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:39 pm
I don't even think it's right to call Ruff an offensive coach. He spent a decade prior in Buffalo where they continually ran a Hitch-like conservative system. Ruff just adapted to what he had during his time here: several fast forwards who could score in transition, a pretty shitty defense, and suspect goaltending.

I don't think a Bowness approach would have helped those prior teams, and I also don't think that Ruff approach would have been more successful with these recent teams considering how Nill changed the build of the team to purposely make the forward group bigger and slower.
Ruff had a couple of very different teams in Buffalo, including the defense-first one we're all familiar with. But in the mid-2000s he ran a run-and-gun high-flying offense with guys like Briere/Drury/Campbell/Roy which scored a ton. I think they may have even won the Prez trophy too? He's the kind of coach we need; the guy who adapts to his roster, rather than the other way around.
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That sounds familiar. Does he sell diamonds?
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Winamp - it really whips the llama's ass.
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Actually that sounds perfect if we still have Klingberg.
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On the plus side, if Nill does hire a defensive-minded coach, at least we'll have a new GM and coach next season.
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