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As usual, I purchased the NHL Center Ice package today for $200+. The things I do for this garbage team ...
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Yeah, I will do the same. If you love you don't count, even if it's a *goddess*.
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Is there any way I could just purchase Jets games? Don't want to miss out on any hot Bowness action!
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That sounds dirty.
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Some NHL teams will get crushed by these regional deals ending.

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They couldn't find a better picture of the guy?

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slaps wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:56 am They couldn't find a better picture of the guy?


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That’s disappointing. He was the designated survivor last night and I was hoping he’d be running the US government today instead.
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Listening to Marty Walsh talk is like listening to a parody of a Boston accent. Holy *poo poo*.
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Ballys was always destined for bankruptcy from the beginning, but this smells way more like bullshit. AT&T can just say we don’t want to do this anymore and back out of contracts by threatening a pretend bankruptcy to one of their siloed units?
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http://amp.awfulannouncing.com/sinclair ... uptcy.html
Sports Business Journal’s John Ourand and Terry Lefton reported that teams in those three leagues “have been told to expect their local media rights fees to be cut by as much as 70% over the next several years.” That’s a massive drop for something that’s a sizable portion of annual revenue for teams. Regardless, NBA teams aren’t panicking. At least not yet.

MLB, NHL, and NBA teams have a conundrum on their hands. A partnership with an RSN is more lucrative but has limited distribution. That distribution is getting more and more limited due to cord-cutting. Working out a deal with a local affiliate or streamer would result in wider distribution, but result in less money coming to the team. SBJ revealed that an NBA team president said that revenue would drop “from the mid-$30 million range per year to around $8 million” if games move from an RSN to a DTC service.

Given the future of the RSN market, at some point, the limited distribution and the expected drop in RSN rights fees will eventually bring about some sort of change in local rights.
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When Bally's folds and teams take back their rights, this is what it will look like.

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That's a *fargin'* lot of money. I ponied up for the bally thing this year, and it was half that, which was still an absolute rip off. The app is absolute trash. Fisher Price my first coding style development.

I guess the question is when are they going to price some of us out of it....
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mookie1010 wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:06 pm That's a *fargin'* lot of money. I ponied up for the bally thing this year, and it was half that, which was still an absolute rip off. The app is absolute trash. Fisher Price my first coding style development.

I guess the question is when are they going to price some of us out of it....
And I wonder if this stuff will finally make fans realize the whole problem here isn’t Bally’s screwing them but is entirely driven by teams wanting money and not caring about fans.
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That's also the Rangers and gets you access to the Knicks (who I have heard of) plus other regional hockey teams. I would expect that to be more expensive.
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It’s amazing that teams like the Stars and many other mid- and lower-tier teams still have TV deals at all. The expense to broadcast per game is hundreds of thousands of dollars, usually to audiences that fail to break 1000 pairs of eyeballs. Paying millions for the rights to broadcast games to no one was always a losing business proposition. Fox couldn’t wait to unload that loser of a business unit, and Sinclair never wanted anything other than to coast it into bankruptcy.
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Troy McClure wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:14 pm
mookie1010 wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 2:06 pm That's a *fargin'* lot of money. I ponied up for the bally thing this year, and it was half that, which was still an absolute rip off. The app is absolute trash. Fisher Price my first coding style development.

I guess the question is when are they going to price some of us out of it....
And I wonder if this stuff will finally make fans realize the whole problem here isn’t Bally’s screwing them but is entirely driven by teams wanting money and not caring about fans.
I'd pay $20 if it included all Stars, Mavs and Rangers. To Slaps' point, if they want to throw this into a regional thing (I think the Astros are on a weird TV deal, right?) that would include more teams, that might be the best thing. Get rid of the GD blackout rule while we're at it.

Hear me out - what if it's a regional thing? Like catering to TX and the southwest? We could call it Mooks sports southwest or something like that.....



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And for fans outside of the market, who knows?
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It's for the best. Those ESPN yelling shows are the worst thing about sports media.
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If they did, it would only be about the Rangers, Bruins, and Flyers anyway.
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NHL expansion is coming next to Atlanta and Houston.

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I am not sure whether it's a good idea for hockey as a business to expand, but I think it's good that Houston is getting a team.
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So what, third time’s a charm for Atlanta?
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slaps wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 4:52 pm So what, third time’s a charm for Atlanta?
The revamped expansion rules might be a big help to give them a non-shitty team this time.
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That seems like it’ll be enough teams for awhile. Liking the quality of hockey in the league right now.
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The Frugal Gourmet wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:09 pm That seems like it’ll be enough teams for awhile. Liking the quality of hockey in the league right now.
And also as the number of teams gets into the mid 30s, fans need to adjust their expectations at ever seeing a Cup win by their team in their lifetime.
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