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SaintAngerBH wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:39 pm *f-bomb* Edmonton. Make them change their name.
Absolutely. Their CFL team already changed its name from Eskimos to Elks this year, which makes the first moniker available.
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Math wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:20 am
SaintAngerBH wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:39 pm *f-bomb* Edmonton. Make them change their name.
Absolutely. Their CFL team already changed its name from Eskimos to Elks this year, which makes the first moniker available.
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BigAl wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:03 am The Houston Astroglides
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Any plans for Eskimo Spy to change his name to Inuit Spy?
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Inuit Clandestine Person With Political Differences.
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ScubaSteve wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:37 am Inuit Clandestine Person With Political Differences.
This pleases me.
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So with the ESPN deal Center ice is now only $60 for the entire season.
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Good news for kat

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Good deal.
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Well, apparently in Canada it's the same old *poo poo* with subscription through NHL Live for $179 as the only option, *Dang all Get out*.
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I'm still not sure if we can start games from the beginning after the game has started so I can FF thru the commercials and intermissions. So far on ESPN +, that's not an option I've found. I would gladly pay $50-$70 more for NHL tv as usual.
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Math wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:40 am Well, apparently in Canada it's the same old *poo poo* with subscription through NHL Live for $179 as the only option, *Dang all Get out*.
I went with the Centre Ice package again for $209 (usually $219 but I was "lucky" enough to get the "earlybird special" :I ).
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Knives Out wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:07 pm
Math wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:40 am Well, apparently in Canada it's the same old *poo poo* with subscription through NHL Live for $179 as the only option, *Dang all Get out*.
I went with the Centre Ice package again for $209 (usually $219 but I was "lucky" enough to get the "earlybird special" :I ).
Yeah, I'll do the same but I'll wait until the deadline edge and the rise of the Alberta oil barrel, just to save some extra cents with the better exchange rate.
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ESPN2 will be bringing back an NHL show. I was a devoted watcher of NHL 2Night for a few years.

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The article mentions it, but if this works out with Bally’s going bankrupt and then Fanatics popping up to start a replacement network, a team like the Stars will see massive decline in revenue. The Stars apparently have a sweetheart local TV deal, and there’s no way they’ll get the same deal from Fanatics thanks to all of the cord cutting.
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Yes, but technically anything is better than their current deal, where almost no one can see the games, no?
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Someone actually told me that you could leave the house and go see them in person too, but it sounded like bullshit.
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ToddM wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:51 pm Yes, but technically anything is better than their current deal, where almost no one can see the games, no?
I think the Stars would strongly disagree with you. They’d much rather have the money than viewers.
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Hockey fans spend among the most on merch, so maybe there's something to be said for having more of them though.
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Seems unfair that out of market folks can see all the games with little problem but in market fans get screwed.
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i'm more into bitching about the box score.
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We’ll always have terrestrial radio. That market’s invincible.
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Sounds like they realize the RSN model is broken.



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Good. Watching a *fargin'* hockey game on TV shouldn't require an NSA-level analysis of how to do it.
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https://thestreamable.com/news/mlb-comm ... d-congress

“If you think about what they paid for it, how much debt they have on it, I mean, you think it’s over 80%, it’s a huge number. And that leverage has produced headlines that are more negative. There are RSNs out there that aren’t thriving or growing, but they’re going to survive. Look, look, there are RSNs, YES, and NESN that have businesses that remain profitable, they’re affected by cord-cutting. But the fact of the matter is I think the negativity has been increased by the Diamond situation.”

There’s also a case of “self-inflicted wounds” here, due to Sinclair’s hardline business strategy. Sinclair is notoriously difficult to work with and has resulted in many carriers temporarily or permanently dropping their channels. Among the affected at one point or another are AT&T, Dish Network, Hulu, and YouTube TV.
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https://nypost.com/2021/10/17/mlb-in-ta ... ome-games/
Major League Baseball is in talks to launch a nationwide video-streaming service that would enable fans to watch their teams’ hometown games without a cable-TV subscription, The Post has learned.

The National Basketball Association and the National Hockey League are also considering partnering with MLB on the new streaming service, sources said. Insiders say subscription rates would vary by geographic market and could be between $10 and $20 a month — well below the monthly cost of most cable-TV packages, which can easily stretch past $100.
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*fargin'* glorious news.
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I don't know what changed related to NHL.tv but last season it was possible to see the postgame analysis, interviews and stuff. This season, once the game is over, I got a "The game has ended" in my face and that's it.
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