2019-2020 NHL Regular Season Thread

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:47 pm

Didn't they do Minnesota vs. Chicago like 2 years ago? Why would they do it again?

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Postby Math » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:45 am

SaintAngerBH wrote:Didn't they do Minnesota vs. Chicago like 2 years ago? Why would they do it again?

Yes, I was for the Stadium Series. Maybe the NHL makes the distinction between this and the Winter Classic, dunno.

Some swiss media are citing the Devils as a possible opponent, which is quite surprising. The League obviously favors rivalries and teams that are good. Wild and Devils are not rivals and are two bottom teams.

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:33 am

It would have been cool to do Dallas and Minnesota in 2000 or 2001 when the animosity was still really high. The Wild fans even booed Modano hard during the first game and for the first few years of their existence. But, the whole North Stars/Stars narrative seems stale at this point and I don't think there would be that much of a story now.

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Postby Troy McClure » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:22 pm

I know schedules are determined too far in advance, but I also recommend finding two teams who very recently played a six or seven game playoff series against each other.
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Postby B Kat » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:35 pm

I think I heard the Canadian talking heads suggesting Winnipeg as a good opponent for Minnesota. Central teams and close locations. I think they like that both home and away fans can attend.

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Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:49 pm

It should be two US of American teams.

Because money.

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Postby cdanew » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:12 pm

Western Conference is fun - Stars are third in the conference (tied for 2nd in points, but COL has one less game) with 50 points - but they are also only third in the division. Stars are also five points ahead of 9th place Calgary (with a game in hand).

Points are at a premium - all of these third period comebacks have been huge.

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Postby Math » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:42 pm

The objective should be the first WC spot, and only this position. We would then meet the Pacific division winner in the first round, which is way better than any other Central team.

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Postby cdanew » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:46 pm



Who? Season saved?

(So this means Perry is getting suspended, right?)

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Postby Math » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:54 pm

I think so about Perry, and probably Dowling would remain scratched tomorrow.

(Bald prediction: 2-game suspension and $5,000 fine for Perry)

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Postby Math » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:56 pm

SaintAngerBH wrote:He'll be fined for that for sure.

Yeap, $20,000 for being honest.

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Re: 2019-2020 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby Math » Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:44 am

one year two-way contract at $700k for Kovalchuk in Montréal !

Very low risk, but still $700k thrown out of the window as the Habs won't make the postseason.

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Postby cdanew » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:32 pm

Math wrote:one year two-way contract at $700k for Kovalchuk in Montréal !

Very low risk, but still $700k thrown out of the window as the Habs won't make the postseason.

The two-way aspect is interesting. Wonder if he would actually report if sent down?

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:39 pm

I thought he wanted to go to a contender. Why did he go there?

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Postby Troy McClure » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:55 pm

SaintAngerBH wrote:I thought he wanted to go to a contender. Why did he go there?

I'm guessing no contenders came calling.
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Postby Math » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:55 pm

None of the 30 other teams, I would say.

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Postby Knives Out » Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:23 pm

cdanew wrote:
Math wrote:one year two-way contract at $700k for Kovalchuk in Montréal !

Very low risk, but still $700k thrown out of the window as the Habs won't make the postseason.

The two-way aspect is interesting. Wonder if he would actually report if sent down?

SaintAngerBH wrote:I thought he wanted to go to a contender. Why did he go there?

Technically the Laval Rocket would be a contender with Kovalchuk, Kinkaid, and Alzner.
That Hanzal's so hurt right now.

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:25 pm

:nice

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Postby slaps » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:01 am

Ouch.

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Postby Troy McClure » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:25 am

Had they won the Cup last season or been a contender this season, it might have been worth it. I guess that's the problem. You can go all in like this, but you do so knowing you screw yourself for a few years if it doesn't work.

But this is a very different feeling from the cap hell the Kings put themselves in trying to keep a Cup winner together or the crazy cap maneuvers the Blackhawks went through trying to compete for more Cups. Giving out big contracts before winning the Cup can make those ugly years very bitter if there's no win to show for it.

The Stars aren't as bad off as the Sharks or Kings, but in a couple of seasons.... It could look ugly. They'll be spending $32.6 million of their cap on four forwards aged 30, 32, 37, and 35.
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Postby Math » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:37 am

This makes look Pavelski contract """"""less"""""" terrible I would say. But of course, imagine Benn's production and impact in five years... Stars will be paying $9.5M for a 4th-line forward.

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Postby slaps » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:08 am

Troy McClure wrote:Had they won the Cup last season or been a contender this season, it might have been worth it. I guess that's the problem. You can go all in like this, but you do so knowing you screw yourself for a few years if it doesn't work.

But this is a very different feeling from the cap hell the Kings put themselves in trying to keep a Cup winner together or the crazy cap maneuvers the Blackhawks went through trying to compete for more Cups. Giving out big contracts before winning the Cup can make those ugly years very bitter if there's no win to show for it.

The Stars aren't as bad off as the Sharks or Kings, but in a couple of seasons.... It could look ugly. They'll be spending $32.6 million of their cap on four forwards aged 30, 32, 37, and 35.

A number of Stars fans make the "Kane / Toews" argument when it comes to Benn and Seguin and their contracts, but Kane and Toews delivered three Cups before signing those deals (maybe two plus one more the same year they signed them). I get that.

For the Sharks, they keep gambling on subpar goaltending, and it keeps being a bad gamble.
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Postby slaps » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:08 am

Math wrote:This makes look Pavelski contract """"""less"""""" terrible I would say. But of course, imagine Benn's production and impact in five years... Stars will be paying $9.5M for a 4th-line forward.

But...grit! Leadership! Art Ross winner!
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Postby slaps » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:18 am

Although, if the Stars end up being good for a while, how much does Benn's contract really matter? Obviously, top-line dollars for third-line production is bad, but so far, I can't think of a single player that Benn "cost us" by having that contract. Perhaps it gets worse in a few years, but aside from Hintz and Heiskanen, the Stars don't have any big upcoming contracts.
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Re: 2019-2020 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby Math » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:32 am

Yes, we are quite at the top of the cap but the situation is not dramatic. Besides Hintz and Heiskanen, there will be Klingberg in three years and Gurianov is also a question mark, depending on how he produces until the end of the season as he will become a RFA. The third D pair is also to consider.

Some grocery calculations throughout the following seasons but definitely not huge laundries in the Hawks' style.

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Postby Troy McClure » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:46 am

slaps wrote:Although, if the Stars end up being good for a while, how much does Benn's contract really matter? Obviously, top-line dollars for third-line production is bad, but so far, I can't think of a single player that Benn "cost us" by having that contract. Perhaps it gets worse in a few years, but aside from Hintz and Heiskanen, the Stars don't have any big upcoming contracts.

Any team can survive and compete with one horrible contract. That's not a big deal, but any way you look at Benn, it's already horrible. He's on pace for 18 goals and 40 points. His ice time is the lowest since his rookie season. He's even dropped down the PP depth chart to be 4th among forwards in PP time. It's not even like he was a victim of a slow start. He's been even colder in his last 15-20 games than he was earlier in the season.

But that's one contract. One bad contract.

If you add to it with more... if Radulov continues to slide (he needed a nine game point streak to get his points per game numbers up to second worst in his NHL career), if Pavelski remains a guy who once a month has people talking about the old Pavelksi, if Seguin struggles to even reach a point a game going forward (currently on pace for 64 points)... this team could look a whole lot like the Kings do now with nothing to show for it.

It sucks because there also isn't much of an alternative. Yeah, they could let the big names walk as free agents or try to trade them for peanuts, but then you depend on the draft to try to fill in the space vacated by those big names. And the draft can be where dreams go to die.
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Re: 2019-2020 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:12 pm

Connor MacDavid's goal was sick as hell last night.

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Postby Troy McClure » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:08 pm

I know what they are going for, but these are ugly as hell. Then again, the blues jerseys from your past I thought were ugly as hell.

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Re: 2019-2020 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby SaintAngerBH » Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:41 pm

A music staff generally requires actual notes. The only team in the league with a note for a logo is St. Louis. It just doesn't translate well at all.

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Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:18 pm

I will continue my trend of not buying jerseys.

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