2019 NHL Off-Season thread

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby Math » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:03 am

Senators' Chabot with the traditional 8x8 contract. I'm not so shocked as he will be the #1 D-man of this wrecked train for the years to come and that's the price to have to pay for such players given their role, age/maturity and production.

Now that will be used as a basis for a Heiskanen extension for which I root all over the place.

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That seems low these days.
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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby ToddM » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:17 pm

Maybe he secretly sucks.

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby Math » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:53 pm

The third jersey horror show continues. After the Oilers, here's the Blues with the exhumation of their hideous 90's jersey

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Postby Troy McClure » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:10 pm

The helmet not matching the jersey is disturbing.
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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby SaintAngerBH » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:00 pm

It could be worse:

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby slaps » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:39 pm

OK, this is just next-level wizardry for 41 goals and 92 points from a center:



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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby Math » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:21 pm

That illustrates perfectly why players like Rantanen, Laine, Point, Marner & Co. are/were in those contract disputes.

They want to have a bridge-deal at a very high value in the last year, so that they can expect a high QO based on that and still have the RFA status (however not eligible for arbitration). After the bridge deal, they can claim a higher level of money, given the cap space increase and eventual other comparables. In opposite to that, teams want to sign them with longer terms, hence with "lower" amount money per year, leading them to UFA status at the end of the contract and have a better contract amount vs. cap space ratio in the middle-term/long-term.

There is also all the no-trade/no-movement clauses and bonuses that come into play as well.

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby ScubaSteve » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:44 pm

How does Tampa have any cap room?
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Postby slaps » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:38 pm

Expect the owners to push to remove the qualifying offer being based on the final year of salary in the previous contract from the next CBA.
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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby Math » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:52 am

And Tkackuk Jr. with the 3-year bridge deal as well. Dominoes are falling, Rantanen is next. After that, the Jets still need to re-sign Connor and find a way to get rid of Laine.

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby ToddM » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:39 pm

I would just like to go on record that I totes predicted like 2-3 years ago that Kari giving up 3 goals a game to Laine would single-handedly bankrupt the Jets.

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby wonko80 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:12 pm

Well Spezza apparently didn't impress so far:

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1. “He’s trying to figure it out if he’s interested, and we’re doing the same.”

One open-to-interpretation comment from Mike Babcock is all it takes.

The Toronto Maple Leafs head coach’s assessment of new guy Jason Spezza’s first pre-season performance Tuesday evening in St. John’s raised eyebrows and provided the first post-Marner-contract talking point for the never-satiated beast that is sports talk in Toronto.

So, is Babcock simply trying to light a fire under an accomplished 1,065-game NHL veteran who accepted the league minimum to return to his hometown and try, at age 36, to finally realize a championship dream that has eluded him for 16 seasons?

Is he using Spezza’s situation to motivate the tryouts actually on the bubble?

Or is the coach actually hesitant to bank on a fading 90-point superstar to fill a very specific checking role? Kill penalties, win draws, forecheck hard, get off, and get used to skating (hard!) fewer than 10 minutes a night.

What’s curious is that no one thought Spezza’s 4C job would be in doubt.

Frederik Gauthier — God love the guy — isn’t exactly the type of player we’d describe as “difficult to replace.” Spezza’s experience and leadership is supposed to offset the losses of Patrick Marleau and Ron Hainsey, a couple of other guys who know what it’s like to see Round 4 of the playoffs. Spezza’s openness to filling in on the wing and ability to make plays on the second power-play unit or contribute a little higher up the lineup in case of emergency were seen as benefits.

GM Kyle Dubas said Spezza was accepting a reduced role with eyes wide open, and the player began training at the Leafs facility weeks ahead of camp, bonding with some of the young players on and off the ice.

So… now his interest and/or the Leafs’ interest is already up for debate?

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Babcock loves a faceoff won.

Working in Spezza’s favour is that no NHLer who took at least 135 faceoffs last season had more success than the former Dallas Star. He won 58.6 per cent of his draws (470 for 807), yet took only three shorthanded faceoffs.

Gauthier, by comparison, was excellent at shorthanded draws, winning 61.1 per cent of them, and held his own overall — 53.7 per cent (240 for 447).

As evidenced by his effort thus far at camp, the Gaut knows full well he’s fighting for a job.

Babcock’s comments on Spezza perk the ears because of the coach’s history with veterans in decline.

In 2010-11 with Detroit, Babcock memorably scratched Hall of Famer Mike Modano, who retired stuck on 1,499 games played. Those sittings still don’t sit well.

“It’s nothing personal, but he’s a tough guy to play for if you’re a veteran. If you’re a young guy, I think it’s great because of the accountability. If you don’t play [properly], you’re not going to play,” Chris Chelios said in 2017. “But no matter what I did — I tried so hard to win his heart over and I just couldn’t.

“It took all those years to find a coach that — I wouldn’t say not like me, but just didn’t want me in the lineup.”

To be fair, whatever lineup Babcock decides to ice needs to be his call. It’s not a stretch to believe the coach’s own fate rests with how far he can take the group.

If a man is about to live or die by the sword, he should at least get his pick from the quiver.

As for what Spezza might be thinking, we spoke to another veteran UFA who joined a Babcock team anticipating a certain role only to find himself healthy-scratched repeatedly.

“You guys [in the media] have had some good thoughts on why that might be the case,” he said.

“Obviously, as a player, you try to figure out what you can do to earn that trust. It didn’t seem like it was there from before training camp, let alone after that – which is not what I expected coming in. It was a surprise to come into that situation. What the reasons are, you’d probably have to ask others.”

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby B Kat » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:39 pm

Whoever didn't see a Babcock Spezza clash coming a mile away didn't watch Spezza last season.

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby slaps » Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:28 pm

Babcock is a wildly overrated coach. All of his success came from basically having an entire team of Hall of Famers doing Hall of Famer things with the hockey.
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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:21 pm

I’m on Spezza’s side here. Just because.

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby wonko80 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:27 pm

B Kat wrote:Whoever didn't see a Babcock Spezza clash coming a mile away didn't watch Spezza last season.

I like how the article mentions how great at faceoffs he is but that he had no PK time. Well that would be because he's not a defensive player. So his value as a fourth liner was always basically nothing.

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby SaintAngerBH » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:35 pm

I just think it's hilarious that he scratched Mike Modano to keep him stuck at 1499 games.
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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:22 pm

He’s a douche yeah.

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby ScubaSteve » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:15 pm

The Frugal Gourmet wrote:He’s a douche yeah.


Agree, I’m glad Babcock scratched him.
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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby BigAl » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:53 am

wonko80 wrote:Well Spezza apparently didn't impress so far:

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If a man is about to live or die by the sword, he should at least get his pick from the quiver.


This metaphor makes my eye go twitchy.
Could of.

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby Math » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:55 am

ScubaSteve wrote:
The Frugal Gourmet wrote:He’s a douche yeah.


Agree, I’m glad Babcock scratched him.


Did he really scratch him at the 1499-mark? I don't recall well. I know he was injured in Detroit but I don't remember exactly at what moment of the season.

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby ToddM » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:10 am

BigAl wrote:
wonko80 wrote:Well Spezza apparently didn't impress so far:

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If a man is about to live or die by the sword, he should at least get his pick from the quiver.


This metaphor makes my eye go twitchy.


Same.

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:51 am

How virile is Spezza that he fires swords from his bow?

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

Postby wonko80 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:10 am

You have my bword.

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sworb?

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Re: 2019 NHL Off-Season thread

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The Stars should absolutely claim Ho-Sang.
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