2018 Stars Off-Season Thread

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2018 Stars Off-Season Thread

Postby ScubaSteve » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:02 pm

:DeadHorse: D\ :bzz: :SEGS :benn :sad :palm :JAG :AngryNinja: :S
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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby SaintAngerBH » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:01 am

Fire Nill. Trade Benn.
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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby Jason » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:26 pm

With the cap going up at least $3 million, that will help out.
The top priority will be extending Seguin. If he wants to remain with the Stars.

Hopefully Hitchcock retires, then the new coach focuses on puck possession. Like Nill has talked about numerous times, which is what they draft the players for, then the decisions the coaches does completely goes against that.
Too much safe stuff involved in the team, play the safe veteran, overplay the top players, don't forecheck aggressively consistently, do the safe dump and chase which is stupid, team isn't built for dump and chase in the first place etc. Playing dump and chase, with a non aggressive forecheck and slow players is a great way to eliminate any puck possession. Players aren't being put in the best positions to succeeded.
Let the younger players play, say this season Honka's not putting up points, but he still helps this team out by moving the puck out of it's own zone. The team needs to play faster.

This team has tried to become the Blues and Kings, with all the bigger, older, slower, (except for Pitlick) added in the off-season, just because they added Hitchcock as the coach. When the league is all about speed and puck possession.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby ScubaSteve » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:42 pm

https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2019/age

Here are the uninspiring UFA choices ranked oldest to youngest, just to give you an idea of who we'll probably be signing.
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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby B Kat » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:25 pm

James Neal is a UFA winger, and he's only 30. :)

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby ToddM » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:33 pm

ScubaSteve wrote:https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2019/age

Here are the uninspiring UFA choices ranked oldest to youngest, just to give you an idea of who we'll probably be signing.


There are actually some surprisingly good UFAs on there. Like Tavares and Carlsson and Stastny and Hamhuis.

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Postby slaps » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:36 pm

ToddM wrote:
ScubaSteve wrote:https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents/2019/age

Here are the uninspiring UFA choices ranked oldest to youngest, just to give you an idea of who we'll probably be signing.


There are actually some surprisingly good UFAs on there. Like Tavares and Carlsson and Stastny and Hamhuis.


But all of them will be signed to long-term deals prior to hitting the market.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby ToddM » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:51 pm

I'm not sure about Tavares.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby Troy McClure » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:53 pm

I am sure the Stars can't afford Seguin, Benn, and Tavares.
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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby SaintAngerBH » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:03 pm

Dump Benn and sign Tavares.
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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby wonko80 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:06 pm

They could do a sign and trade with the Islanders for Tavares. They won't, but they could.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby Knives Out » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:52 am

Halak ...
That Hanzal's so hurt right now.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby mookie1010 » Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:26 am

Knives Out wrote:Halak ...


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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby slaps » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:46 pm

Quick update on what to look forward to this summer.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/artic ... im-benning

Curtis Mankewich (@CurtisSaysThis) asks…

"Who has drafted the worst over the last decade? The Dallas Stars come to mind. Aside from John Klingberg and Jamie Benn in the fifth round, the first round has been dismal…Scott Glennie, Jamie Oleksiak, Jack Campbell, Denis Gurianov (maybe?), Valeri Nichushkin, hoping not Julius Honka too."

I agree with your use of first-round picks to illustrate Dallas’ draft failures, Curtis, as the later rounds are crapshoots, and we can’t really punish teams like San Jose, Chicago and L.A. for weak prospect crops over the past decade when they so rarely got to pick in the top half of the first round. You may have a real case for Dallas having the ugliest recent draft history. Glennie played one measly NHL game, while Oleksiak and Campbell are only finally getting extended NHL looks this year – on new clubs. And what about Radek Faksa? He’s become a nice two-way center, maybe a Selke candidate someday, but on draft day 2012, when he was picked 12th overall, how would the Stars have felt if we travelled back in time and told them “He’ll be a good checking center who tops out around 40 points.” Is that top-12 material? It’s debatable. Even Riley Tufte, chosen in 2016’s first round, cracked our scouting panel’s list of prospects whose stocks have dropped the most in the past year. So did Gurianov. So the Stars have gotten remarkably little from their first-rounders over the past decade...

[snip]

Still, Dallas has to take the unofficial crown. Most of Buffalo’s misses are still NHL players. They simply haven’t performed like first-rounders. Some of Dallas’ first-rounders, on the other hand, have become legit NHL washouts.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby Troy McClure » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:09 pm

Sucks to hear Tufte isn't showing much promise. Not surprising, but it sucks.

I disagree with their take on Faksa. They're only saying that when looking at all of the other busts drafted before and after him. When he's the only first rounder who looks like a good NHL player, then yes, you crap on the pick, but if he was one of four or five former first rounders playing well on a playoff team, Faksa would be pointed to as yet another draft success.
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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby wonko80 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:17 pm

True, but he can't be used as a point of success when he's the only one. He's the exception at that point.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby Jason » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:27 pm

Troy McClure wrote:Sucks to hear Tufte isn't showing much promise. Not surprising, but it sucks.

I disagree with their take on Faksa. They're only saying that when looking at all of the other busts drafted before and after him. When he's the only first rounder who looks like a good NHL player, then yes, you crap on the pick, but if he was one of four or five former first rounders playing well on a playoff team, Faksa would be pointed to as yet another draft success.


The hockey news is a joke overall. They probably base Tufte not showing promise on his World Juniors.
Tufte has improved a lot over last season, he could probably benefit from one more year in college. The best thing about Tufte is he has a knack for scoring in the playoff games. He was always labeled as a project player, who needed time to develop.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby slaps » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:52 pm

Troy McClure wrote:Sucks to hear Tufte isn't showing much promise. Not surprising, but it sucks.

I disagree with their take on Faksa. They're only saying that when looking at all of the other busts drafted before and after him. When he's the only first rounder who looks like a good NHL player, then yes, you crap on the pick, but if he was one of four or five former first rounders playing well on a playoff team, Faksa would be pointed to as yet another draft success.


I read it as yes, it's somewhat a success because he's contributing at the NHL level (he's actually quite good), but that it's still not exactly a resoundingly successful draft if your first-round pick at number 12 tops out at a 40-point, 3rd-line guy. For reference, Cody Ceci, Tomas Hertly, Teuvo Teravainen, Andre Vasilevsky, Olli Maatta, Brady Skjei, and Tanner Pearson all went after Faksa did in the first round.

And yes, I realize that its easy to look back five years later and point to mistakes, but its a pretty common theme with the Stars. It's not an aberration to completely screw up your first round pick - having a first round pick be successful is an aberration.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby ToddM » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:13 pm

Tufte leads his team in scoring, with 16 in 38 games. Those aren't Reilly Smith college numbers, but they're not at all bad for a sophomore.

Faksa is a lot better than a 40-point 3rd liner. Advanced stats-wise, he's up there in the top five in the NHL in defensive forwards. He starts almost all of his shifts in the defensive zone and ends them in the offensive zone. He makes all of his linemates and d-pairs significantly better. I'd rather have him than Ceci or Teuvo or Maatta (but not Vasilevskiy). The only reason he's a "40-point 3rd liner" is because Nill went out and signed one of those in Hanzal and bumped Faksa down the depth chart.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby slaps » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:18 pm

Faksa never even hit 40 points in the AHL. He's on pace for about 35 points this season. He's about a 40-point, 3rd-line guy.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby Jason » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:30 am

Nill needs to find out well before the draft if Seguin's going to sign an extension or not. He's a UFA after next season. Seguin can't officially sign a extension until July 1st.

Halak if cheap wouldn't be a bad option for 30 games. Islanders are terrible defensively.

Hopefully the Rangers don't fire Vigneault. That has Nill hiring all over it. Would be the same garbage.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby ToddM » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:23 am

I'd wager the odds of AV coming over here are north of 75%.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby B Kat » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:46 am

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby SaintAngerBH » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:06 am

I'm hoping Nill doesn't have to worry about Seguin because he will be busy packing up his office.
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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby SaintAngerBH » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:07 am

ToddM wrote:I'd wager the odds of AV coming over here are north of 75%.


I thought he didn't want to come to Dallas. Isn't that the reason we hired Ruff instead back in 2013?
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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby ToddM » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:39 pm

Maybe he thought Lundqvist was a better goalie than Kari.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby Knives Out » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:05 pm

Jason wrote:Halak if cheap wouldn't be a bad option for 30 games.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby One_Timer » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:02 pm

AV probably views Dallas as a farm team like the rest of the NHL does. No respect there and shouldn’t be. The only way to real power in this league is through the draft, and minus a couple of fifth rounders, they absolutely suck.

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Re: 2018 Stars Offseason Thread

Postby Knives Out » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:48 pm

Antti Raanta is gonna be a UFA.
I would love to have him split the season with Bishop.
Unfortunately he'll prolly be looking to get paid.
That Hanzal's so hurt right now.

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