2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby Math » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:18 pm

B Kat wrote:Where has it been stated that Bowness will step back at the end of the season, no matter what?

I believe I heard that in one of his interviews. He finds himself more comfortable in an assistant coach position and he's not that interested in continuing as a head coach after this season.

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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:43 pm

He implied that to me too, although it's hard to predict the future.

In fact, I personally find it much easier to predict the present.

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Postby slaps » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:58 pm

I predict that sometime today Frugal will make a comment that is not 100% serious.
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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby ScubaSteve » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:44 pm

It’s going to be really interesting having Gallant and Zubov as co-head-coaches next season.
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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby Knives Out » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:10 pm

Troy McClure wrote:What I do enjoy from national media is their indifference about the depth players local fans think are super amazing all because of how the team-employed broadcasters have talked these players up.

:nice
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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby Knives Out » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:10 pm

slaps wrote:https://twitter.com/seanshapiro/status/1217475620050960384?s=20

Considering that the Habs only hire french fucks, Nill better get to him soon ...
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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby Knives Out » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:22 pm

Math wrote:
B Kat wrote:Where has it been stated that Bowness will step back at the end of the season, no matter what?

I believe I heard that in one of his interviews. He finds himself more comfortable in an assistant coach position and he's not that interested in continuing as a head coach after this season.

If we hired Gallant ASAP, Bones would still be around as an assistant, and Laxdall could go back to Cedar Park or we could fire John Stevens LOL. It's win-win-win.
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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby wonko80 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:01 pm

Gallant has been kicked to the curb twice now. Perhaps that's a sign he's an extreme asshole or something?

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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby ScubaSteve » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:12 pm

Is he a Monty who got Babcocked? Or is he a Babcock who got Monty’d? Only way to find out is to hire him.
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Postby Troy McClure » Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:21 pm

He is on year three of getting fewer wins out of his team. The team is still good, but I guess they expected more.
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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby Knives Out » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:29 pm

Blolz.

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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby Math » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:15 pm

Isn't Vegas looking itself a bit brighter than this team really is ?

Golden Knights are on their third season, been twice in the playoffs, reached the SC final in their inaugural season, that's just beyond the most optimistic predictions for an expansion team. It's obvious that at some point they would trend down and face some adversity, have losing streaks with larger question marks and get back on Earth.

They were first in the tight Pacific division two weeks ago, Gallant was named coach of this division for the All Star Game, and of a sudden, they hit the panic button and fired him. Vegas did everything right since its inception in the league, this is the first mistake they made, it's a big one and it just doesn't make any sense.

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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby ScubaSteve » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:18 pm

Vegas had nowhere to go but down. McPhee has proven he can’t GM his way out of a paper bag, they just lucked out big time with the bullshit trades around the expansion draft. After a couple years of actually managing, they were bound to slide downhill.
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Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:23 pm

That actually probably applies to all teams really. You reach the Finals one year and there's a high chance the next few years won't be as good.

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Postby mookie1010 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:39 am

The Frugal Gourmet wrote:That actually probably applies to all teams really. You reach the Finals one year and there's a high chance the next few years won't be as good.

More proof that exceeding expectations is probably a bad thing.
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Postby Troy McClure » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:36 pm

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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby ScubaSteve » Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:52 pm

Well, it’s news, that much is for sure. The rest is editorializing.
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Postby B Kat » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:01 pm

Is it really even news?

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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby Knives Out » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:02 pm

Bah. Maybe he’ll still be available when the season ends.
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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby slaps » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:43 pm

https://theathletic.com/1541186/2020/01 ... st-sabres/

I did not realize this:

Coaches have often talked about how watching games from the top can be helpful to struggling players because the speed slows down for them and they can see the bigger picture. I asked Faksa if that was the case for him and he said while it does get to that point for him throughout the course of a game, he just hasn’t had much experience with it. It’s rather impressive at how available and valuable to the team Faksa has made himself despite not being a top-six forward. He missed one game last season, three the year before and just two the season before that. That’s playing in 285 out of a possible 293 games over the last four seasons. He doesn’t get scratched when healthy and he doesn’t usually get hurt, the latter especially notable given the physical nature of his game on the ice.
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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby Troy McClure » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:40 pm

His durability is especially surprising considering he spent a lot of the time after being drafted out injured.
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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby ScubaSteve » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:12 pm

Faksa is an interesting case when it comes to durability, because other than PK, you can’t distinguish whether he’s in the lineup or not on any given night.
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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby wonko80 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:05 pm

Seguin on pace for 18 goals and 62 points this season. Those would be his lowest totals since his rookie season.

This is what makes me think these coaches suck at offense. Either that or Seguin has aged like Benn and we're fucked for the next 5+ years.

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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:07 pm

Watching Seguin, I believe he still has it. I see it.

Honestly, I know this isn't going to be a popular view but I think Benn has some of it too.

I don't know how much of this is the defense-first philosophy but it sure is interesting.

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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby SaintAngerBH » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:40 pm

The Frugal Gourmet wrote:Watching Seguin, I believe he still has it. I see it.

Honestly, I know this isn't going to be a popular view but I think Benn has some of it too.

I don't know how much of this is the defense-first philosophy but it sure is interesting.

He looked like 2013 Seguin again in a breakaway last night but only really for that brief moment.

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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby SaintAngerBH » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:41 pm

The Frugal Gourmet wrote:Watching Seguin, I believe he still has it. I see it.

Honestly, I know this isn't going to be a popular view but I think Benn has some of it too.

I don't know how much of this is the defense-first philosophy but it sure is interesting.

What Benn did in overtime last night looked exactly like something out of 2012. It was bizarre to see it randomly show up after so long.

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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby slaps » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:10 pm

The Frugal Gourmet wrote:Watching Seguin, I believe he still has it. I see it.

Honestly, I know this isn't going to be a popular view but I think Benn has some of it too.

I don't know how much of this is the defense-first philosophy but it sure is interesting.

I think Seguin is fine, if slower due to that Achilles injury. Benn has definitely lost a step or two, but I don't think he's suddenly lost all scoring ability.

I don't Pavelski lost all scoring ability in coming here, either.

It's coaching.
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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby Math » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:16 pm

I also don't believe you can suddenly turn from an elite player to a bare average one once you approach the 30-year-old mark. We had the proof yesterday can they can still make the difference but it's still on occasional flashes, so I'm leaning on Frugal's side even if it's very frustrating to see them play most of the time.

Thing is, Seguin is an average skater, Benn is a terrible one. Once he's launched, then ok but his diesel mode is a real pain in the ass. In a league where speed exponentially increases as well as the game itself, they are struggling a lot to win battles, be first on the puck, anticipate just to have that necessary half-second to be in front.

I don't think the problem of the millionaires' club offensive production can be put solely on the coach or on the defensive system in general, even if I have concerns about Bowness where the head coach's shoes seem to be too large for him. When Gainey was in charge and then Hitch 1.0, that didn't prevent Modano, Courtnall, Hull, Nieuwendyk to produce on a high and significant level.

The problem of Benn, Seguin & co. woes is lying between the two shoulders. As we focused on those guys, there's another one that is a more terrible liability to this team: Pavelski. If a bantam player get that kind of laziness penalty he took in the third, he's glued on the end of the bench. That was not a mistake but a professional error, a disgrace.

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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:41 pm

I don't care if they're scoring leaders again. I've seen that. Didn't do dick for us.

But I would obviously like for us to work on and improve everything, including the offense.

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Re: 2019-2020 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby wonko80 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:42 pm

I'd like for them to be the leading scorers on the team at least.

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