2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby Jason » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:06 pm



"He's earned the right to be here," Stars general manager Jim Nill said. "You get to the point now where you're not given games anymore, you have to earn them. He's earned his games. It's valuable experience with him being here at camp. We're going to keep going game by game here to see where he fits in and go from there. Still got three games to go, and see where he fits in."

Does Nill view Harley as a legitimate NHL option?

"Yeah, well you know what, he's earned the right," Nill said. "He's still young, you've got to be realistic, he's still 18 years old and it's a big step yet. Let's kind of go game by game here and let's see where he fits in. So far, the coaches when we're putting lineups together, his name comes up and he deserves a chance. So that's how we view it and that's important. I think he's earned that right."

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby Troy McClure » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:30 pm

*f-bomb* it, right? If he can hang with the pros, why not?

Personally, I don’t think developing a guy by keeping him in juniors means as much as fans build it up to be. I think the real secret to development is time. All you’re really doing is waiting for the skinny 17 year old to bulk up into a bigger, faster, and stronger 20 something man. That’s the real secret to development. Just waiting for a kid to grow into his body.
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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby slaps » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:22 pm

It’s a young guy’s league. Keeping players in the minors until they are 23 or 24 is likely just wasting a few prime years.
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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby ScubaSteve » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:34 pm

I know I’m reaching here, but sometimes I think they keep players in the minors because they aren’t talented enough to be on the NHL team.
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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby slaps » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:40 pm

But as long as they are in the minors, they are a prospect they can sell as the future. True NHL prospects require good drafting and development, though.
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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby BigAl » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:40 am

Harley can’t go to the AHL, correct?
If his options are either NHL or juniors then I think I’d be inclined to keep him in the NHL where he could learn to play up to the NHL level.
If you send him back to juniors then there’s the chance that he develops a bunch of bad habits — things that work great against other 18 year olds, but wouldn’t work at all in the NHL.
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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby ScubaSteve » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:19 am

As long as you keep in juniors, he’s a prospect with POTENTIAL.
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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby SaintAngerBH » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:58 am

Keep him in the NHL as long as he's playing but keeping him in the NHL to sit in the press box with Oleksiak is stupid.
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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby B Kat » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:38 pm

Send him to Juniors and make him work on defense. He has talent, but he's not ready to defend real NHLers.

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby Math » Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:10 pm

I subscribed to this, there is no urgency to throw him in the NHL. Send him back in the OHL, he will gain experience there, pile up TOI, work on his physical aspects. As I agree to be audacious and not hesitating to send prospects in the great league when it's time, the goal is also not to burn them. Making a prospect sit in the press box is stupid, but having him in the team as a #7 D-man/#13 Forward with a bare 3 minutes of ice time while benching them after the very first mistake is even dumber.

If he signs an entry-level contract later on, it costs nothing to test him for 10 games, not to burn his first year contract. If he manages to earn a roster spot, go for it. Otherwise, assign him to the minors.

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby BigAl » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:17 pm

Could of.

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby SaintAngerBH » Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:54 pm

In other words, he's going to let him ferment in the minors for about 6 years until he turns into the next Oleksiak.
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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby Knives Out » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:49 am

I was kinda hoping that we were rushing him to replace Johns LOL.
That Hanzal's so hurt right now.

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby ToddM » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:44 am

Harley will probably stay in the minors, but Dellandrea is the one who has a better than even shot of staying with the NHL club. He's been impressive as *poo poo* since getting drafted, and him and Dickinson on the fourth line can cause havoc and draw some penalties.

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby SaintAngerBH » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:39 am

Dellandrea was the only standout to me in the televised game.
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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:13 am

We are sucking this preseason.

Season over?

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby BigAl » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:32 am

That seems like a safe assumption.
Could of.

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby BigAl » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:57 pm

Looks like Gurianov got the least amount of ice time, which is exactly what you’d expect of a 1st round pick with 4 years of pro experience.
Could of.

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby ScubaSteve » Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:58 pm

He needs to be fresh for the AHL season.
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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby Troy McClure » Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:02 pm

BigAl wrote:Looks like Gurianov got the least amount of ice time, which is exactly what you’d expect of a 1st round pick with 4 years of pro experience.

And yet when he’s sent down after doing jack *poo poo* this preseason, the Facebook crowd will still say he wasn’t given enough chances. It’s never the player’s fault.
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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby SaintAngerBH » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:08 am

Or they'll defend his stellar defensive play.
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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby ccharris55StarsFan » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:29 am

Is there anything new on Johns??

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby SaintAngerBH » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:38 am

Word is it's a head injury.
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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:49 am

What a wuss. Does anyone really need a head to play hockey?

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby BigAl » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:56 am

Hockey IQ is stored in the balls.
Could of.

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:03 pm

You have my Bow.

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Re: 2019 Stars Training Camp & Preseason

Postby ScubaSteve » Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:11 pm

And my Gurianov
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