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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby ToddM » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:49 pm

Lavoie might be an interesting pick, if the Canadiens don't scoop him up first. He's older than most draftees, has insane puckhandling skillz but middling production... until this year's QMJHL playoffs, when he put up 20 goals in 23 games and led his team to the Finals.

Scouts love his raw offensive potential but hate his lack of grit and defense. So basically, he's a Canadian Russian Enigma:

https://thehockeywriters.com/raphael-la ... t-profile/

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby ScubaSteve » Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:12 pm

He could even be a boat!
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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby Jason » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:10 am

According to Corey Pronman Stars are high on defenseman Victor Soderstrom and Cam York

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby ToddM » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:19 am

Both are undersized, offensively-gifted d-men. I guess you can never have too many of those.

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby slaps » Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:55 am

Because we totally need more defensemen instead of high-ceiling forwards.

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby Troy McClure » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:47 am

Pretty sure the Stars system is pretty empty when it comes to skilled d-men.

I don't really care what position is drafted as long as the pick works out.
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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby ScubaSteve » Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:11 pm

Let’s take a pesky undersized guy 40 picks higher than he’s projected.
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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby ToddM » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:14 pm

DBD does a pretty good article on Hoglander:

https://www.defendingbigd.com/2019/6/10 ... lled-rogle

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby Knives Out » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:41 am

What a name. Just think of all the "There can be only one" memes we could make using pig imagery.
That Hanzal's so hurt right now.

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby wonko80 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:51 am

Knives Out wrote:What a name. Just think of all the "There can be only one" memes we could make using pig imagery.

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby Knives Out » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:19 pm

We don't need to draft him anymore.
That Hanzal's so hurt right now.

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby ToddM » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:39 am

Good read on the Stars' draft scouting:

https://theathletic.com/1023460/2019/06 ... -brothers/

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:43 am

Who was the guy I advocated for before? I'm sticking by that one.

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby ToddM » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:49 am

Bobby Brink (cool name, but no Hoglander) is probably this year's Barzal. Insanely skilled, but also too small for old school NHL scouts. If he were four inches taller, there'd be no chance we'd get him at 18th, but as it is there's good odds that we'll get the chance to pass up on him and watch him shine for a division rival two years from now.

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby slaps » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:12 pm

https://theathletic.com/1023391/2019/06/17/nhl-draft-confidential-10-most-interesting-anecdotes-from-prospect-interviews/

It was the 2010 combine and one of the top draft-eligible prospects was the talk of the NHL community, not so much for his play but for some of the alleged antics that earned him a substantial suspension from his team that year. When word started to trickle out about what he had done, it spread like wildfire, with teams scrambling to confirm whether the grisly (or at least gross) details were indeed true. Did this player really get caught, pants down, defecating on a car in a moment of teenage hijinks?

“That’s all anyone wanted to know,” said one person who attended the combine that year and knew the question every team was asking: ‘Hey, we heard you *poo poo* on a car.’”

One team executive remembers the player being savvy enough to tacitly acknowledge the act while artfully dodging further questions. Another remembered him being much more outright with his transgression.

“We didn’t even have to ask,” the executive recalled. “He walks in, very confident, sits in the chair, no hello’s, no ‘how are you doing?’ no breaking into (small talk). He just said, ‘Yup, it’s true. I *poo poo* on my girlfriend’s car.'”

The entire scouting staff dissolved into laughter and struggled to make use of the rest of their time. Each time they’d try to revert back into serious question mode, they’d howl and giggle again.

“I’ve never seen anything like it before and nothing like it since,” the exec said. “It was absurd. I mean he did handle it well for a kid who crapped on a car.”

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby cdanew » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:18 pm

There were some pretty interesting stories in there. Wonder how many of these mind games the executives play with potential draft picks actually have any impact whatsoever.

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby slaps » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:46 pm

Annual reminder that the 2015 draft is rapidly looking like the best draft since 2003 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NHL_Entry_Draft) and we got....Denis Gurianov, who has yet to play any really meaningful NHL games.

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Postby Troy McClure » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:18 pm

slaps wrote:Annual reminder that the 2015 draft is rapidly looking like the best draft since 2003 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NHL_Entry_Draft) and we got....Denis Gurianov, who has yet to play any really meaningful NHL games.

I prefer the hockeydb link where you can scroll down below him to see at least seven guys in the first round alone who all have more NHL goals that Gurianov is likely to have when his NHL career is over.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2015e.html
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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby slaps » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:30 pm

Troy McClure wrote:
slaps wrote:Annual reminder that the 2015 draft is rapidly looking like the best draft since 2003 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NHL_Entry_Draft) and we got....Denis Gurianov, who has yet to play any really meaningful NHL games.

I prefer the hockeydb link where you can scroll down below him to see at least seven guys in the first round alone who all have more NHL goals that Gurianov is likely to have when his NHL career is over.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2015e.html


I like the yellow highlights on the Wikipedia page which indicates an NHL All Star, of which three were taken after Gurianov.

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby ToddM » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:12 pm

I like the fist-sized holes in my drywall that somehow appeared there when we were gifted/passed over Barzal and Connor.

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby B Kat » Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:36 am

There’s a lot to regret after #12. I would have LOVED Brock Boeser.

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby BigAl » Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:03 am

Gurianov just turned 22, so I have some hope he’ll still make it. I think he has the skill but not the work ethic, yet. Maybe he’ll surprise us.

Mascherin had a pretty good AHL season for a 20 year old. About the same production that Dickinson had at age 20. It’ll be interesting to see how he fares in training camp.
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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby Troy McClure » Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:09 am

The only worry I have about him is that guys described as good goal scorers or snipers figure it out by this age and are usually on the front end of their goal scoring peak. I think you'd done some pretty neat number gathering on this point.
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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:00 am

He looks good to me so far, so I think he still has a shot. Our offense overall was anemic last season so I think it's not exactly the easiest system to start in.

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby B Kat » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:23 am

The Frugal Gourmet wrote:He looks good to me so far, so I think he still has a shot. Our offense overall was anemic last season so I think it's not exactly the easiest system to start in.

That's a good point. Not exactly the best offensive players to play with either. I thought he looked pretty good some games, but got lost at times. His speed is valuable.

Curious Al, what makes you think his work ethic is suspect?

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby Troy McClure » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:27 am

I worry about a sniper who struggles to get only one shot on goal a game.
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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby BigAl » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:12 pm

B Kat wrote:Curious Al, what makes you think his work ethic is suspect?

Because he reminds me of Patrik Stefan, a guy who had talent but only seemed to use it once every 10 games.
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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:29 pm

Gurianov is probably not really a sniper. The early scouts just thought he had a nice release on his shot. H

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby Knives Out » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:32 am

Almost every mock draft I’ve seen has the Sens taking Ryan Suzuki (younger brother of Nick, and relative of David Suzuki) with the pick right after ours. I want him.
That Hanzal's so hurt right now.

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Re: 2019 NHL Draft

Postby slaps » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:05 am

But Knives, he's not a man of high moral character. He depends on, you know, hockey smarts as opposed to really grinding it out in the corners. It's too much of a gamble to go with a guy with that high a ceiling - what if he doesn't pan out and we don't get a bottom-6 grinder?

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