11/10 vs. Nashville

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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby ScubaSteve » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:35 pm

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Stars2099 wrote:Rarely can one game show how shitty your drafting and developing is. But God bless, 6, 43, and 34 all being out there at once


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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby wonko80 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:54 pm

At some point, Val has to go from looking good to actually scoring.

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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

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ScubaSteve wrote:
#JTONTFJTGM wrote:
ScubaSteve wrote:
#JTONTFJTGM wrote:
Stars2099 wrote:Rarely can one game show how shitty your drafting and developing is. But God bless, 6, 43, and 34 all being out there at once


Is he?


Are they?

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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby wonko80 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:31 pm

So I'm finally totally out on Honka. He's at best a zero sum player.

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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby Troy McClure » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:44 pm

wonko80 wrote:So I'm finally totally out on Honka. He's at best a zero sum player.

For a guy who has some amount of offensive vision, it’s amazing how little instinct he has for the defensive part of the game.
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby ToddM » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:58 pm

Bishop gave up 4 goals in 22 minutes after his contact fell out.

Other than that, tho, not a bad showing for the bandaid team we trotted out.

Toldya Gleason was good.

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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby wonko80 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:00 pm

The Stars shoulda won that even with a decimated D core. The Predators played terrible.

Also, didn't get the stops we needed from Bishop.

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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby slaps » Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:04 pm

Honka was brutal. Let’s package him and Nichushkin up for some help on the wing.

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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby SaintAngerBH » Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:36 pm

Yeah. It's official. Julius Honka is not a good hockey player.
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby SaintAngerBH » Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:37 pm

ToddM wrote:Bishop gave up 4 goals in 22 minutes after his contact fell out.

Other than that, tho, not a bad showing for the bandaid team we trotted out.

Toldya Gleason was good.


Gleason is the reason the Predators scored in overtime.

He's too slow and he couldn't keep up so he fell.
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby SaintAngerBH » Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:39 pm

#JTONTFJTGM wrote:
Stars2099 wrote:Rarely can one game show how shitty your drafting and developing is. But God bless, 6, 43, and 34 all being out there at once



Even Razor admitted during the broadcast that Nichushkin hasn't given the Stars what they need this season.

He is officially a bust.
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby ToddM » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:31 pm

Honka made a great save on that wraparound early when Bishop was clearly beat to one side to keep it 0-0. He also was able to skate it out of trouble in his own end repeatedly. He had one bad turnover that resulted in a goal, but then again, Klingberg makes that exact same turnover once or twice a game (also resulting in goals against) and no one bats an eye. That second goal was only partially on Honka: it was a lucky bounce to a lucky mid-air slap that squirted through Bishop's arm.

Say what you will about Val, but he's been bounced up and down the lineup, and invariably, HIS LINE ALWAYS SCORES. He might not get an assist, but look at the last dozen or so games, even games where we only scored one goal, and the winger on the ice when it happened was Val. He just does a lot of little things to make that *poo poo* happen. He also made an exceptional breakaway-pass-to-himself-off-the-boards move that almost resulted in a backbreaking goal, but Saros is also a really good goalie so he stopped it. Happens.

Gleason is an interesting case. Despite being ranked #58 in North America, he was never drafted. Kicked around in the OHL for a few season, scoring quite a bit, capped off with an 18-points-in-21-games performance in the Memorial Cup playoffs and won the championship. Still no interest. So he walks into Traverse City, impresses everybody, has a great preseason, then rocks in the AHL. And now he kinda scored his first NHL goal in his first NHL game, with some deft stickwork in the third to stop Pred attacks and create offense the other way. Sure, he fell down in OT and Nashville scored, but that's also a puck Bishop normally stops (Bishop really sucked after the second intermission today). I woudln't be surprised if Gleason is still up with the club when Polak and them get back.

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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby Troy McClure » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:51 pm

Val didn’t almost score there. Shooting the puck into a goalie’s leg pad isn’t ever going in.
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby ToddM » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:53 pm

Troy McClure wrote:Val didn’t almost score there. Shooting the puck into a goalie’s leg pad isn’t ever going in.


Tell that to Roman Josi.

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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby SaintAngerBH » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:57 pm

Just sounds like more excuses.

I thought excuses were looked down upon in professional sports. Isn't this Val's third full NHL season? Val even looked crappy in the freaking KHL. If you suck in the KHL, you are guaranteed to suck in the NHL.

Val is a bust. Accept it.
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby SaintAngerBH » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:58 pm

I do actually think Gleason looks like he could be a solid pro. I just think he's a step too slow. I'm not sure how to correct that because speed seems to be inherent and not teachable. I suppose if he develops great positioning and instincts that might cover up the lack of skating ability.
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby Troy McClure » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:14 pm

Honka’s ice time went down period by period. 7:16 to 5:51 to 4:42 with no shifts in OT. He did not handle this opportunity well.
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby Troy McClure » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:16 pm

ToddM wrote:
Troy McClure wrote:Val didn’t almost score there. Shooting the puck into a goalie’s leg pad isn’t ever going in.


Tell that to Roman Josi.

Are you talking about his goal where Josi was shooting at an open net and put the puck just inside the post?
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby SaintAngerBH » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:32 pm

Troy McClure wrote:Honka’s ice time went down period by period. 7:16 to 5:51 to 4:42 with no shifts in OT. He did not handle this opportunity well.


He is basically the Kari Lehtonen of defensemen.
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby Jason » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:38 pm

How about Benn double clutching on the pass from Heiskanen, then missing the net in overtime. $9.5 million player should be able to hit the net on that.

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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby B Kat » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:16 pm

We should be glad for the point, but A win wasn’t out if the question. Stupid penalties late are dooming us. Honka was a high event player today. :)

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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

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Jason wrote:How about Benn double clutching on the pass from Heiskanen, then missing the net in overtime. $9.5 million player should be able to hit the net on that.


I thought the same thing. Epic fail.
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby ScubaSteve » Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:55 pm

I was really annoyed to see Cody Eakin’s stupid face on the Jumbotron today.
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

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SaintAngerBH wrote:
Troy McClure wrote:Honka’s ice time went down period by period. 7:16 to 5:51 to 4:42 with no shifts in OT. He did not handle this opportunity well.


He is basically the Kari Lehtonen of defensemen.

Except Kari is tall and looks like he should be able to play the game. Honka is a dwarf. Too small when drafted and too small to play in the NHL in this century.
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby slaps » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:29 am

5minmajor wrote:
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Troy McClure wrote:Honka’s ice time went down period by period. 7:16 to 5:51 to 4:42 with no shifts in OT. He did not handle this opportunity well.


He is basically the Kari Lehtonen of defensemen.

Except Kari is tall and looks like he should be able to play the game. Honka is a dwarf. Too small when drafted and too small to play in the NHL in this century.


Size has nothing to do with it. He’s just got bad decision-making tendencies.

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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby SaintAngerBH » Sun Nov 11, 2018 11:16 am

He reminds me so much of Matt Niskanen after Zubov destroyed his hip and couldn't cover up for him anymore.

He's like a deer in headlights when the puck is on his stuck and he panics, especially when attempting to break out. He is also weak on the puck.
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

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Troy McClure wrote:Honka’s ice time went down period by period. 7:16 to 5:51 to 4:42 with no shifts in OT. He did not handle this opportunity well.

This got me curious so I looked at the stats, two AHL guys ended up with more ice time. If all the D were healthy where would he fit in the order?
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby Troy McClure » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:42 am

BigAl wrote:
Troy McClure wrote:Honka’s ice time went down period by period. 7:16 to 5:51 to 4:42 with no shifts in OT. He did not handle this opportunity well.

This got me curious so I looked at the stats, two AHL guys ended up with more ice time. If all the D were healthy where would he fit in the order?

It's hard to say. It sure looks like the coaches tried to hand him big minutes. He was given an opportunity on the PP and even the PK, and they quickly lost faith in him.
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Re: 11/10 vs. Nashville

Postby wonko80 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:47 am

Another example of holding on to a guy too long and ruining his trade value.

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