2018-2019 Stars Regular Season Thread

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Postby ScubaSteve » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:02 pm

Yeah. He was good for maybe the first 2-3 years here. Almost Romo-esque in that he seemed pretty darn good at times, but everything else around him was *fargin'* horseshit.
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Jesus, BaD Radio. Pick a platform. What's next, a link to band camp?
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Postby SaintAngerBH » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:21 pm

I think Gaglardi is a total *fargin'* *kitty kitty*. I agree with Bob Sturm. It's obvious the message Lites put out there was really Gaglardi's, not Lites's.

Gaglardi had Lites to his dirty work for him and then balked when Shapiro asked him to interview.

Total coward. No respect for that guy after this.
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Postby Knives Out » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:54 am

Well, I understand why he had Lites say it for him. It needed to be said, and if the reception was negative or if the Stars faulter from here, he can always just fire Lites. The last thing you want to do is directly become another Melnyk if you can avoid it, where most fans take the side of leaving players over yours LOL. Hell, we already had enough idiots defending Jamie and Tyler’s subpar play before this shitshow even happened, and I doubt those morons could even tell you what Lites’ job is or even figure out that the comments really came from T-Gags. It’s his right as a billionaire owner.
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Postby SaintAngerBH » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:04 am

I guess so. I dunno. I'm not a CEO or a billionaire owner, so what the hell do I know?!?
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Postby wonko80 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:59 am

mookie1010 wrote:I thought Lites qualified that statement to mean the most talented since Gaglardi bought the team. Could be wrong.

That's what I thought as well.

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Re: 2018-2019 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby BigAl » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:04 am

Just checked some numbers since we’re at the halfway point.
We’re on pace to score 226 goals for the season.
Last year we scored 235.
16-17: 223
15-16: 267
14-15: 261
13-14: 235

I can hardly believe we’re only going to be shy of last year’s goal total by 9. It seems like the number should be closer to 50,000.
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Postby wonko80 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:14 am

BigAl wrote:Just checked some numbers since we’re at the halfway point.
We’re on pace to score 226 goals for the season.
Last year we scored 235.
16-17: 223
15-16: 267
14-15: 261
13-14: 235

I can hardly believe we’re only going to be shy of last year’s goal total by 9. It seems like the number should be closer to 50,000.

For reference here are the league leaders/losers in that category:
18-19*: 341 / 181 (*on pace for... and holy *poo poo* Tampa is scoring a lot)
17-18: 290 / 198
16-17: 278 / 165
15-16: 265 / 182 (Dallas led the league... not sure why mine is 265 and yours is 267)
14-15: 259 / 153
13-14: 263 / 150

So interestingly, while we think of the 15-16 team as being high flying, and it was that year, even if we scored the same amount of goals we'd now be trailing the leaders. The 265 would be good for 8th place in 17/18.

To me this goes back to the Benn/Seguin thing a bit. Continuing to score at the pace you were 3 years ago may be fine, but it also isn't keeping pace with the rest of the league. So either other players are scoring more (they are), or other teams are finding more players to score goals.

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Postby BigAl » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:48 am

wonko80 wrote: not sure why mine is 265 and yours is 267).

I got my numbers from the standings page, but I see the stats page shows different totals. The NHL should probably hire us to fix their database queries.
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Postby Troy McClure » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:49 am

wonko80 wrote:So either other players are scoring more (they are), or other teams are finding more players to score goals.

It's both. The guys at the top of the leaderboard are way higher in point totals than most in prior years. Benn won the Art Ross with 87 points, which was the lowest number for a winner in a non-lockout year since 67-68 when the league expanded and only played 74 games. Also, the number of guys ahead of them is a long list. Scoring isn't up just because a handful of superstars are putting up numbers. It's been a league-wide rising tide.
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Postby BigAl » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:00 am

The median GA last year was 240, and it looks like the median for this year also projects to 240. So maybe it’s a few teams that really stink on defense this year.
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Postby Troy McClure » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:06 am

Knives Out wrote:Well, I understand why he had Lites say it for him. It needed to be said, and if the reception was negative or if the Stars faulter from here, he can always just fire Lites. The last thing you want to do is directly become another Melnyk if you can avoid it, where most fans take the side of leaving players over yours LOL. Hell, we already had enough idiots defending Jamie and Tyler’s subpar play before this shitshow even happened, and I doubt those morons could even tell you what Lites’ job is or even figure out that the comments really came from T-Gags. It’s his right as a billionaire owner.

Having Lites do it sure looks like a mistake after the fact because it's not entirely clear whether Gaglardi wanted the message to be this personal and attention-grabbing with the profanity and insults. Maybe he did, but who knows. It's impossible to say since Gaglardi is hiding from the media.

For me, Gaglardi's biggest mistakes were twofold.

Delivering this message days before the Winter Classic announcement was stupid and completely poisoned the announcement. Instead of having national hockey media run to Stars people and league people to talk only about the event and how great it will be for the Stars and Dallas, they're largely making these interviews uncomfortable by also talking about what Lites said. Bettman was set to pump up the Dallas market for something like the third time in 15 years, but instead, he's busy having to talk about the internal politics of the Stars. Just stupid marketing from Gaglardi and Lites.

Also, having Lites do this while Gaglardi was two or three thousand miles away was stupid. It left everyone in the organization and media without the ability to talk to Gaglardi in person. You know Nill, coaches, PR people, ticket sales managers, and players probably wanted to hear from Gaglardi to get from him exactly how the organization should handle this. Just *poo poo* leadership on his part to not make himself available to his players and employees until days later.
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Postby SaintAngerBH » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:56 am

Seguin said in his Bad Radio interview that he and Benn did actually meet with Gaglardi fairly quickly after it happened. But, maybe that was via Facetime or something.
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Postby Troy McClure » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:04 am

SaintAngerBH wrote:Seguin said in his Bad Radio interview that he and Benn did actually meet with Gaglardi fairly quickly after it happened. But, maybe that was via Facetime or something.

It was in person a day or two later after Gaglardi flew to Dallas when he realized how this went over.
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Postby ToddM » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:54 am

This Toronto guy (they've had their fair share of shitty front office managers) gets it:

https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2018 ... m-nylander

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Sturm is on a rampage against the Stars:



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Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:34 pm

In a way this is working out of them, though, because a lot of people are now talking about the Stars whereas before everyone was bored by their perpetual mediocrity.

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Postby B Kat » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:45 pm

To be fair, Ivan Vishnevskiy did net Kari Lehtonen.

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Postby Troy McClure » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:07 pm

B Kat wrote:To be fair, Ivan Vishnevskiy did net Kari Lehtonen.

And Julius Honknevskiy will probably net them a 4th round pick.
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Postby SaintAngerBH » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:33 pm

If there is any other option on defense, Julius Honka should be sitting. He is so freaking bad.

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:34 pm

Also, Bob Sturm is dead on. He can say it because he is no longer employed by the Stars on broadcasts. What he tweeted there is exactly the truth and that has nothing to do with Benn's hip or Seguin's posts.
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Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:46 pm

They got Spezza to be their Nieuwendyk. He just didn't have the late career greatness that Newy had. It's gonna have to be something like that. You have to get lucky somewhere.

My bigger issue is shoring up of the other scoring depth areas. Somebody else good is going to have to come from our prospect pool as well eventually, guys.

I'm currently pleased with the defense, however, and now think it's going to be great for years. Amazing how it switches.

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Postby slaps » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:04 pm

I love this jab from Shapiro in his latest mailbag:


https://theathletic.com/745848/2019/01/ ... much-more/

What would be a good opponent for the 2020 winter classic? What jerseys do you think the Stars should wear? (From Joshua B.)

I’ve thought about this quite a bit, and I think if the NHL really wants to embrace the new era of outdoor games and look at other teams, they should go with the Nashville Predators.

Nashville has the fanbase that would come down for an event like this, and I think that NBC would be thrilled to help sell the game around PK Subban’s personality. The Predators are also a divisional opponent, and if the Stars were ever consistently good, they could create a nice natural rivalry with the Predators.

I’ve seen people bring up the Minnesota Wild, and I’m sure that’s being considered. But I also don’t think that has the curiosity or the appeal of a game against Nashville would have. You also want to have at least one guaranteed good team playing, and making Nashville the opponent would do that.

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Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:06 pm

Why do you need at least one good team playing? The Winter Classic is awful and shitty hockey and the only point is to draw in outsiders for the novelty. Maybe at least one big market for ratings, but Nashville doesn't do that.

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Postby Troy McClure » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:42 pm

The Frugal Gourmet wrote:They got Spezza to be their Nieuwendyk. He just didn't have the late career greatness that Newy had. It's gonna have to be something like that. You have to get lucky somewhere.

My bigger issue is shoring up of the other scoring depth areas. Somebody else good is going to have to come from our prospect pool as well eventually, guys.

I'm currently pleased with the defense, however, and now think it's going to be great for years. Amazing how it switches.

Nieuwy wasn't a speed demon, but he held up quite a bit better than Spezza. It also helps that Nieuwy was playing in a time when the game wasn't as fast, so even if he had started to lose a step it didn't matter quite the same.

Spezza's extension has ended up being a bad investment. Spezza's legs are nothing these days. Don't know if it is related to his many back problems, but he can't skate.

Thankfully, Spezza's contract is gone after this year, but there is no one who can take the role. You know they're going to hand it to Shore or Dickinson next season because they are young centers, but neither of them are scaring opposing teams. What's going to end up happening again is what's left of Spezza/Methot's cap money will end up going to yet another free agent who is overpaid to play a role that would be occupied by a young player if the Stars could draft good players.
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Re: 2018-2019 Stars Regular Season Thread

Postby B Kat » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:52 pm

Troy McClure wrote:
B Kat wrote:To be fair, Ivan Vishnevskiy did net Kari Lehtonen.

And Julius Honknevskiy will probably net them a 4th round pick.

At this point, we should be so lucky. Not that I like it.

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Postby FrozenFailure » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:54 pm

I guess they're trying to be fast and entertaining if they can't actually be good. It's like Texas High School football, but hockey.

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