2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby Jason » Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:43 pm


Only three more seasons left after this season.

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby Troy McClure » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:07 pm

Jason wrote:
Only three more seasons left after this season.

A GM is moving garbage off of his roster? I refuse to believe that can be done.
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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby Troy McClure » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:08 pm

The Flyers fired their GM today. Ron Hextall wasn't able to get much of anything out of the Flyers during his tenure.

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby wonko80 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:58 pm

Arizona traded Dylan Strom and Brendan​ Perlini to Chicago for Nick Schmaltz.

The best part, and something you'd never hear Nill say, came from Arizona GM John Chayka on trading away Dylan Strome:

“There is a difference between patience and hope. The latter is not a way to build your organization.”

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Postby wonko80 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:03 pm

Troy McClure wrote:The Flyers fired their GM today. Ron Hextall wasn't able to get much of anything out of the Flyers during his tenure.


Reddit (which I don't really go to but should more) has a thread about this. People are throwing out names of past Flyers as possible GMs. One person said Lindros, and was followed up with this comedy gold:

"Seems like a solid choice tbh, he's forgotten more about hockey than most of us will ever learn."

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby ScubaSteve » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:17 pm

If there’s anyone we can trick into taking Honka, it’s gotta be the 27 year old fancy stats dork. For maximum blolz, how about Honka for Goligoski?
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Postby ToddM » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:36 pm

wonko80 wrote:Arizona traded Dylan Strom and Brendan​ Perlini to Chicago for Nick Schmaltz.

The best part, and something you'd never hear Nill say, came from Arizona GM John Chayka on trading away Dylan Strome:

“There is a difference between patience and hope. The latter is not a way to build your organization.”


Chayka is a moron. He gave away Max Domi because he didn't work out in Phoenix. Well, now Domi is Montreal's #1 center with 26 points in 24 games. Galchenyuk, the guy Montreal traded, has 9 points this season. Chayka has signed a bunch of former Stars d-men who didn't work out here (Demers, Connauton, Goligoski) and are mediocre at best there. He went all-in last season, trading away prospects for seasoned NHL vets in Hjamarlssson and Stepan, and the result was a 70 point season that was artificially inflated by a huge run of wins long after they were eliminated.

And now he trades the 2015 3rd overall pick and a guy who puts up insane scoring stats in CHL and AHL (as well as their 2014 1st round draft pick) for... Nick Schmaltz?

That'd be like us trading Heiskanen(3rd overall) and Faksa (12th overall) for Dominik Simon.

I think Chayka is in over his head, and is just trying to make short-term trades for vets to save his own ass, because he's been there now for 3+ years and his team continues to be a punchline.

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby SaintAngerBH » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:25 pm

I wouldn't include Demers in the "didn't work out" category. I think it was more of a salary/youth thing with him. Demers looks really good to me when he was here.
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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby ToddM » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:45 pm

SaintAngerBH wrote:I wouldn't include Demers in the "didn't work out" category. I think it was more of a salary/youth thing with him. Demers looks really good to me when he was here.


True. He had a really bad playoffs, but that might have been because he was paired with Kris Russell and told to defend Tarasenko.

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Postby slaps » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:01 pm

I don't know what Chayka expected. It's the Coyotes. Oceans rise, cities fall, and the Coyotes remain cellar dwellers.

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby ToddM » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:13 pm

They were pretty good before they moved from Phoenix. Remember those Roenick-Tkachuk-Bulin Wall teams?

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:46 pm

Even back then, they were only moderately good. For the talent they had, they should have been better.
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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby ScubaSteve » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:49 pm

In the last decade they've won more playoff series and had more conference finals appearances than the Stars, so you tell me which franchise is more successful.
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Postby Troy McClure » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:37 pm

ScubaSteve wrote:In the last decade they've won more playoff series and had more conference finals appearances than the Stars, so you tell me which franchise is more successful.

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby B Kat » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:38 pm

They used to do more with less under Tippett. Just sayin'.

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:14 pm

Tippett. lol
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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby ToddM » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:08 am

This is great (and extremely cringe-worthy). DGB put together a list of every team's biggest three-misses draft (that is, the one year where they could have had three great players and picked three shitty ones right beforehand instead):

https://theathletic.com/679033/2018/11/ ... t-regrets/

The Stars one, for all you bellyachers out there, will surprise most of you. But it's far from the most painful in terms of 'what if...'.

The Whalers one is probably the most hilarious, tho.

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Postby Troy McClure » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:45 am

ToddM wrote:This is great (and extremely cringe-worthy). DGB put together a list of every team's biggest three-misses draft (that is, the one year where they could have had three great players and picked three shitty ones right beforehand instead):

https://theathletic.com/679033/2018/11/ ... t-regrets/

The Stars one, for all you bellyachers out there, will surprise most of you. But it's far from the most painful in terms of 'what if...'.

The Whalers one is probably the most hilarious, tho.

The Stars one was a huge letdown. I was all excited to see what he found for us. Instead, I see he found something to make Wild fans groan.
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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby ToddM » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:51 am

It's true, tho. Passing up on Yzerman in favor of Lawton? I mean, that puts all of our recent misses to shame.

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby Troy McClure » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:10 pm

ToddM wrote:It's true, tho. Passing up on Yzerman in favor of Lawton? I mean, that puts all of our recent misses to shame.

Part of my reaction is there's a point where you wander down this revisionist history fun trail where you realize, had the North Stars made those correct picks, the North Stars probably don't move south.
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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby wonko80 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:37 pm

I'm not sure I care that much about a draft from 35 years ago. Like even if I were a fan back then, I wouldn't remember whatever prospects were drafted anyway. Hell, I barely remember any non-superstars from any further than 15 years ago. The ones he did from the past 10-15 years were better just because they had some relevance.

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby ToddM » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:11 pm

I would say our biggest draft miss in the Real Hockey Era (1999-) was in 2001, when we drafted Jason Bacashihua when Jeff Woywitka was still on the board.

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby Troy McClure » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:38 pm

Here is where help could be found, but Nill would have to move a lot of parts around to clear cap space and also to give Toronto what they'd want to trade him. In other words, there's not a chance in hell the Stars can swing this.

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby B Kat » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:50 pm

It's not like TO needs him. ;)

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby ToddM » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:59 pm

Nill's surprised me in the past (the Daley-Sharp-Johns trade was *fargin'* fantastic). Every single NHL fan thinks their team has a shot at Nylander. But I'm sure some other team will swoop in at 4:59 on Saturday and overpay by a bunch.

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby slaps » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:34 pm

They better swoop in before 4:59 on Saturday. That's the deadline to sign a contract with any team, or he's out for the season.

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby B Kat » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:02 pm

He should just do the two year bridge deal and then prove himself. He wants the long deal & dollars.

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

Postby slaps » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:27 pm

I don't think it's just term and dollars, I think he also wants a guarantee he won't be shipped out.

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Re: 2018-2019 NHL Regular Season Thread

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