2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby Troy McClure » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:08 pm

If it's not Neal, the only other options are trades, and the Stars don't have a lot to offer in a trade.
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Postby oglethorpe » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:28 pm

slaps wrote:Looks like Tavares to the Leafs.


7 years/77 million. Nill should run to Seguin with the exact same deal, except give home 8 years. If Seguin was waiting to see what Tavares got, this didn’t really help him in my opinion, seems like he gave Tor a hometown discount.

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Postby atticus ross » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:29 pm

Pacioretty?

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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby slaps » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:41 pm

Talk about a lockout-proof contract:


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Postby CraigG » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:49 pm

slaps wrote:Talk about a lockout-proof contract:



Did the Leafs management even get a kiss or a reach around? :Giggle:
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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

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slaps wrote:Looks like Tavares to the Leafs.


7 years/77 million. Nill should run to Seguin with the exact same deal, except give home 8 years. If Seguin was waiting to see what Tavares got, this didn’t really help him in my opinion, seems like he gave Tor a hometown discount.


Islanders fans are going to boo the *poo poo* out of him every time he returns lol.
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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby B Kat » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:42 pm

Leafs are on the rise. Way closer than the Isles and he goes home. Good for him and TO.

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Postby Troy McClure » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:45 pm

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oglethorpe wrote:
slaps wrote:Looks like Tavares to the Leafs.


7 years/77 million. Nill should run to Seguin with the exact same deal, except give home 8 years. If Seguin was waiting to see what Tavares got, this didn’t really help him in my opinion, seems like he gave Tor a hometown discount.


Islanders fans are going to boo the *poo poo* out of him every time he returns lol.

You know they won't be booing him in the playoffs...
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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby wonko80 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:42 pm

Curtis McKenzie signed by Vegas. Our AHL team will be hurting from that loss.

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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby wonko80 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:43 pm

Mike McKenna signed by Ottawa. Again, our AHL team will be hurt by this.

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Postby ToddM » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:37 pm

On second thought, I never wanted Tavares anyways.

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:54 pm

wonko80 wrote:Mike McKenna signed by Ottawa. Again, our AHL team will be hurt by this.


So will the Ottawa nets.
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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby slaps » Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:28 am

Tortorella is better than Burke:

https://theathletic.com/415536/2018/07/ ... nguins-gm/

The​ Blue​ Jackets​ weren’t​ interested​ in signing defenseman Jack Johnson to a contract extension​ this offseason, and​ they didn’t seem​​ too upset at the thought of him signing with the rival Pittsburgh Penguins. But that all changed Sunday with two comments — one by Johnson, the other by Penguins GM Jim Rutherford — as Johnson was introduced in Pittsburgh after signing a five-year, $16.25 million contract with the Penguins.

Johnson, who spent seven seasons in Columbus, said of his new organization: “I’ve been looking to be in a winning culture.”

Rutherford, who has taken heat from fans in Pittsburgh as word of Johnson’s long-term deal leaked, made a cryptic comment about why Johnson was a healthy scratch for the Blue Jackets during their first-round loss to Washington in the playoffs.

“I don’t think he had a bad year,” Rutherford told reporters in Pittsburgh. “He was a healthy scratch at the end of the season. I know the reason why. It wasn’t because of how he was playing.”



“All I know is, this organization, from the lawyers, the front office, J.D. (John Davidson), the managers, the coaches, players … has done nothing but try to help Jack,” Tortorella told The Athletic. “And for him to backhand slap us like this is utter bullshit, and he should know better...The thing that pisses me off the most is a general manager in this league questioning and talking about our decision-making,” Tortorella said. “Shut the *f-bomb* up!

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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby slaps » Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:28 pm

For a team with serious secondary scoring issues, we sure seem to be letting a lot of scoring wingers get past us.

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Postby cdanew » Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:27 pm

slaps wrote:For a team with serious secondary scoring issues, we sure seem to be letting a lot of scoring wingers get past us.


Agreed - but I'm kinda ok not paying Neal $5.75m per for the next five years.

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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby ScubaSteve » Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:38 pm

I’d rather not score a single goal next year than being Neal back here.
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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby ToddM » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:16 pm

Yeah, that's a really shitty contract at this point in Neal's career.

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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:06 pm

James Neal is 30 years old. Yeah he's worth that easily.

Based on average decline over 5 years, his production should go from 24-30 goals per season to 19-25 goals per season by the end of his contract.

The value of money will also decline during that time.

It's really not that bad a contract.

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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby ToddM » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:38 pm

Calling Neal a "24-30 goal scorer" is a little optimistic, no? In ten seasons he's hit 30 twice, and just once since 2012. And that's with Brad Richards/Crosby/Malkin feeding him saucer passes. He's already on the decline at 30 at the start of that contract. It's going to look like *poo poo* two or three years from now.

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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:50 pm

He's a first liner on all but like 3 NHL teams. I think it's a pretty reasonable contract.

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Postby ToddM » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:07 pm

He wasn't even a first-liner on an expansion team.

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:16 pm

ToddM wrote:He wasn't even a first-liner on an expansion team.


Yeah, but they were like....the GREATEST EXPANSION TEAM OF ALL-TIME IN ANY SPORT!!!!!!!!
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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby wonko80 » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:43 pm

I'm actually surprised at Neal's stats. I thought he scored more, but I guess I based that on the one 40 goal year he had and the fact he scored on the Stars every time he played them.

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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:03 pm

ToddM wrote:He wasn't even a first-liner on an expansion team.


lol. He had the 4th most forward ice time on a team that went to the Finals, is another way to look at it. Either a first liner or your best second liner. Better than Spezza and cheaper, even if you go back to before this season.

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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:07 pm

wonko80 wrote:I'm actually surprised at Neal's stats. I thought he scored more, but I guess I based that on the one 40 goal year he had and the fact he scored on the Stars every time he played them.


He only scores huge and awesome goals.

Against us.

It would be worth it just to sign him so he can't do that any more.

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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby One_Timer » Mon Jul 02, 2018 10:41 pm

He loves scoring on the team that drafted him. I would too but he’s become a journeyman. 4 NHL teams have let him go and he’s now on his 5th, at 30 years old. Good for the flamers.

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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby Jason » Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:18 am

Leafs have Nylander as a RFA this off-season.
Matthews and Marner next off-season.

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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby ToddM » Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:25 am

The Isles would be idiotic not to offer sheet all three of Nylnder, Matthews, and Marner.

But then again, it might make their weekly golfing rounds slightly awkward if they did. So it will probably never happen.

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Re: 2018 NHL Off-Season Thread

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:26 am

You're always all in on this offer sheet stuff. You really have an offer sheet boner.

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