2017-2018 Stars Season Thread

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https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-stars/stars/2018/02/25/stars-gm-jim-nill-taking-cautious-approach-mondays-nhl-trade-deadline

We have a plan and we know what the situation is. I like where we're at right now and I have a history of seeing things in this league," Nill said when asked about the possibility of a big move for the Stars at Monday's NHL trade deadline.


"We did most of our work in the summer, and changed our team a great deal, so now we want to see how that plays out," Nill said. "If we can make our team better for the proper price, we are open to doing that, but I also think we have a good team now."


I'm not saying the Stars should panic and blow up the roster.

But, if he truly "likes where we're at right now," then he is not watching the same team that I am. It is possible that this team doesn't even make the playoffs.
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Postby wonko80 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:09 pm

Nill is the king of nothing speak, so I never really pay much attention to what he says unless it happens to be some rare criticism. When you hear that, you know it's a big deal.

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Postby wonko80 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:11 pm

Spezza spends more effort trying to make it look like he's back checking hard than if he'd just *fargin'* skate normally. So ridiculous to watch.

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Postby Getsmacked123 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:16 pm

Spezza two seasons ago with Janmark on his line was so much fun to watch, now watching Spezza is like watching paint dry. I think if hanzel was healthy he'd definitely be scratched again. Maybe Hitch still will scratch him for a couple games, and bring up the fastest available. Cause this team is slow.

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Postby Knives Out » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:08 pm

After losing Strader I don't think this team can emotionally handle Spezza being scratched again.
That Hanzal's so hurt right now.

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Re: 2017-2018 Stars Season Thread

Postby B Kat » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:54 am

Stars site has a nice article/interview with Hull. Always good for some laughs.

https://www.nhl.com/stars/news/brett-hu ... -296466128

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B Kat wrote:Stars site has a nice article/interview with Hull. Always good for some laughs.

https://www.nhl.com/stars/news/brett-hu ... -296466128


I agree with Hully about the modern NHL. Robotic is a great way to put it. It's not as interesting to watch as it used to be, not even the cup finals.
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Postby Troy McClure » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:37 pm

Bob and Dan went through the remainder of the Stars schedule. The Stars are clinging to a wild card spot right now. One site will say they have an 81% chance of making the playoffs given their number of points and number of games remaining, but it turns out things aren't that simple. Not accounted for in that stat is the fact the majority of their remaining games are on the road and are against teams in the upper half of the league. They are facing the toughest remaining schedule of any team.

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Troy McClure wrote:Bob and Dan went through the remainder of the Stars schedule. The Stars are clinging to a wild card spot right now. One site will say they have an 81% chance of making the playoffs given their number of points and number of games remaining, but it turns out things aren't that simple. Not accounted for in that stat is the fact the majority of their remaining games are on the road and are against teams in the upper half of the league. They are facing the toughest remaining schedule of any team.

:gulp


Yeah, that segment was not encouraging. Basically we are favored in only 4 of the remaining 19 games, and 2 of those are against Ottawa.
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Postby Troy McClure » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:56 pm

A true cynic would look this "worst remaining schedule" stuff and would ask, "Does that mean the Stars who are barely clinging to a playoff spot right now have had the easiest schedule in the NHL to this point?"
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Isn't that just a by product of being in the central now?
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Troy McClure wrote:A true cynic would look this "worst remaining schedule" stuff and would ask, "Does that mean the Stars who are barely clinging to a playoff spot right now have had the easiest schedule in the NHL to this point?"


Good I hope they crash and burn. The team needs to make more changes.

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Jason wrote:
Troy McClure wrote:A true cynic would look this "worst remaining schedule" stuff and would ask, "Does that mean the Stars who are barely clinging to a playoff spot right now have had the easiest schedule in the NHL to this point?"


Good I hope they crash and burn. The team needs to make more changes.


They've been crashing and burning for a decade now. Pretty sure no big changes are coming.

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Postby Troy McClure » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:02 pm

And what big changes would we see even if they miss the playoffs? Even if they go sub .500 and fart out the season?
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Postby slaps » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:34 pm

We could go out and sign a top-end right winger and a good starting goaltender, for starters.

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Jason wrote:
Troy McClure wrote:A true cynic would look this "worst remaining schedule" stuff and would ask, "Does that mean the Stars who are barely clinging to a playoff spot right now have had the easiest schedule in the NHL to this point?"


Good I hope they crash and burn. The team needs to make more changes.


My problem is that even if they tank, they will still likely get a mid first round pick. No point in throwing it in to pick 10th. Especially considering our drafting "ability."
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slaps wrote:We could go out and sign a top-end right winger and a good starting goaltender, for starters.

Soon to be 35-year-old Ilya Kovalchuk will be free to sign with any NHL team this offseason if he chooses to.

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Postby ToddM » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:31 pm

As long as they squeak in and get to play Vegas in the first round, I'm good.

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SaintAngerBH wrote:
Jason wrote:
Troy McClure wrote:A true cynic would look this "worst remaining schedule" stuff and would ask, "Does that mean the Stars who are barely clinging to a playoff spot right now have had the easiest schedule in the NHL to this point?"


Good I hope they crash and burn. The team needs to make more changes.


My problem is that even if they tank, they will still likely get a mid first round pick. No point in throwing it in to pick 10th. Especially considering our drafting "ability."


Should be plenty of Russian wingers who will never make it to the NHL available in the mid first round.
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Re: 2017-2018 Stars Season Thread

Postby Jason » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:13 pm

slaps wrote:They've been crashing and burning for a decade now. Pretty sure no big changes are coming.

SaintAngerBH wrote:My problem is that even if they tank, they will still likely get a mid first round pick. No point in throwing it in to pick 10th. Especially considering our drafting "ability."


There were long times over that period they had no plan at all, they refused to blow it up.

The team is slow, the speed issues can be masked to some extent with more puck possession. The team struggles to get the puck out of it's own end consistently when Klingberg isn't out there. When the team is at it's worst on that is when Pateryn is out there.
There's lots of issues with the team. Since they rather keep running out the same defense even though it's a reason why they are struggling to score. Any change they can make they just slot on the 4th line, more or less just keep the same players out on the PP, change lines all the time so players cant build chemistry.

They're in this situation due to wasted picks of Glennie, Campbell, Oleksiak. Then there's Nichushkin who went back to Russia. Faksa while solid, didn't have the offense upside of other players. I guess you might as well put Honka on that too, since they refuse to play him, even though he would help the team out more then keep playing Pateryn. There's a reason why the team scores more, allows less goals, wins more etc when he plays, but that's the perfect reason to not play him. Even if Honka hasn't played good at all this season, he does things no one else on defense can do but Klingberg.
Ritchie's skating declined this season, so he's nothing but a liability now. If his skating didn't get worse he would be useful.
I get why they didn't take Barzal coming off his fractured kneecap. They could even go give Guryanov a chance, but why would it matter? He'd be slotted on the 4th line and play no PP minutes, so just leave him in the AHL.

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Ridiculous. If the Stars miss the playoffs again and no change is made, we should all boycott the games like Hawks fans did in the mid-2000s. Maybe an empty arena will shock them into doing something.
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Postby 5minmajor » Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:24 am

Good idea. You stay home.
Unfortunately I have nothing else to do so I'll continue to go.
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5minmajor wrote:Good idea. You stay home.
Unfortunately I have nothing else to do so I'll continue to go.


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SaintAngerBH wrote:Ridiculous. If the Stars miss the playoffs again and no change is made, we should all boycott the games like Hawks fans did in the mid-2000s. Maybe an empty arena will shock them into doing something.


Hawks fans boycotted because Wirtz kept selling off their best players like Roenick, Belfour, and Chelios, once they became too expensive (basically they were hockey's Florida Marlins).

I doubt Nill will trade Seguin for two mops and a bag of pucks just to not pay him what he's worth. He's not Tom Hicks.

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Hawks fans also were pissed and rightfully so that home games were not broadcast on TV.

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Postby BigAl » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:34 pm

It was the best of times, it was the Wirtz of times.
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Re: 2017-2018 Stars Season Thread

Postby SaintAngerBH » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:05 pm

ToddM wrote:
SaintAngerBH wrote:Ridiculous. If the Stars miss the playoffs again and no change is made, we should all boycott the games like Hawks fans did in the mid-2000s. Maybe an empty arena will shock them into doing something.


Hawks fans boycotted because Wirtz kept selling off their best players like Roenick, Belfour, and Chelios, once they became too expensive (basically they were hockey's Florida Marlins).

I doubt Nill will trade Seguin for two mops and a bag of pucks just to not pay him what he's worth. He's not Tom Hicks.


Sure, I get that the Chicago situation was far worse. But, when I see that the Stars have had one successful playoff season in nearly two decades, I get really annoyed when the GM says he is happy with the current team as it sat only a point or two from being out of the playoffs. Nill hasn't done a good enough job and that is both surprising and disappointing considering where he came from. Some of his deals were great. Enough of them have been worthless for me to question his ability as the head GM.
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Re: 2017-2018 Stars Season Thread

Postby SaintAngerBH » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:12 pm

https://www.nhl.com/stars/news/dallas-stars-announce-changes-in-operating-structure-of-clubs-business-operations/c-296534548

Jim Lites will remain as Chief Executive Officer of the team, while Brad Alberts will now serve as President


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