The Ken Hitchcock Circle of Life is Complete -- no, I don't mean he's dead

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Re: Ken Hitchcock hired to coach the Stars

Postby cdanew » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:45 pm

Heck, give McKenna at least one of those 3 starts as a thank you for being a good soldier.

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Re: Ken Hitchcock hired to coach the Stars

Postby ScubaSteve » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:56 pm

A little bit of a misleading stat there, since a large number of those are 9 second shifts on the PK where they are out there to take a faceoff then immediately change.
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Re: Ken Hitchcock hired to coach the Stars

Postby Troy McClure » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:35 pm

I can’t help but wonder if having Benn and Seguin killl penalties is partly why the PP looks stale at times. Are they being overworked?
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Re: Ken Hitchcock hired to coach the Stars

Postby B Kat » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:47 pm

Happy medium. It’s great that they are killing penalties, Klingberg too. But some balance is in order. I could see the team get tired, especially Klingberg.

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Re: Ken Hitchcock hired to coach the Stars

Postby ToddM » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:52 am

Hitch on why he didn't play Gemel Smith this season:



I'm apparently watching an entirely different set of Stars games from the one Hitch is watching.

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Re: Ken Hitchcock hired to coach the Stars

Postby Troy McClure » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:51 pm

What Hitch meant to say is "It's simple. If you're going to play in the NHL, you need to have played in the NHL. It has to be quantity of years of service over quality of play. That's what my NHL is all about. If it's 8 games of experience, I might give you 8 minutes of ice time every other month. If it's 12 seasons of experience, I will give you 12 minutes of ice time."
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Re: Ken Hitchcock hired to coach the Stars

Postby SaintAngerBH » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:34 pm

Yeah. Hitch is imagining things here. Smith was better than other other players who played nearly every game this year.

More reason not to keep Hitch.
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Postby ScubaSteve » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:49 pm

I dunno. Smith, Shore, Elie, etc are all pretty much interchangeable spares to me.
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Postby wonko80 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:57 pm

Smith is better than Elie.

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Re: Ken Hitchcock hired to coach the Stars

Postby ToddM » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:51 pm

Smith outscored half the top-six forwards in even-strength goals. Despite getting scratched for most of the season and only playing 9 minutes a night when he did get in.

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Re: Ken Hitchcock hired to coach the Stars

Postby Jason » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:13 pm

The argument I'm effectively putting forth in favour of Honka is not even about him specifically, but it’s about a broader issue and is more about possible coaching and management blind spots. As brilliant and accomplished as Ken Hitchcock has been as a head coach, for example, he doesn’t have much of a history of playing undersized puck-moving defencemen. That’s hardly a unique position among veteran NHL head coaches, and one that should be interesting moving forward because there does appear to be a trend towards accepting smaller defencemen in the game. In the 2018 Draft, for example, Adam Boqvist and Quinton Hughes are sub-6-foot defencemen expected to go in the first half dozen picks or so. That situation would have been unthinkable not so long ago.


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Re: Ken Hitchcock hired to coach the Stars

Postby ScubaSteve » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:54 am

Buh bye.
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Re: Ken Hitchcock hired to coach the Stars

Postby Troy McClure » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:56 am

ScubaSteve wrote:Buh bye.

I love you. This made my morning.

Hitch is retiring and moving into the consultant role.

Hitch didn't do a very good job this season, and it also looked like he was miserable doing the job. Now, it's time for Nill to find a winner. Tough hire. A lot of GMs don't get to make three coaching hires, so if the team doesn't see some pretty immediate improvement, Nill could very well be out of a job by this time next season.
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Re: The Ken Hitchcock Circle of Life is Complete -- no, I don't mean he's dead

Postby wonko80 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:09 am

It's total bias to what I just read sound awesome, but Sean Shapiro (from The Athletic of course) would prefer a younger guy:

Personally, I'm a big fan of Todd Nelson, who is currently coaching the Grand Rapids Griffins. Nelson does have brief NHL coaching experience from the 2014-15 season with the Edmonton Oilers, but that came with an interim tag and extreme oversight from GM Craig MacTavish.

In the AHL Nelson has done a nice job with both the Oklahoma City Barons and the Griffins, winning a Calder Cup last season. His teams play a fast-tempo offensive game and players I've talked to rave about his ability to adapt to his roster.

Whether it's Nelson or somebody else, that's the type of coach I would like to see in Dallas. Someone who has acclimated to today's NHL and its players and has an eye toward the future. Other voices that could fit that realm include Sheldon Keefe, who coaches the AHL's Toronto Marlies, and Jim Montgomery, who coaches at the University of Denver.

...

Keefe, who is 37, does a good job of finding balance. He mixes AHL veterans with younger prospects in Toronto and does a good job of keeping the pulse of this team. He's also a more open-minded coach, he looks at the analytics quite a bit, and he has an impressive career win-loss record everywhere he's gone.

I've also been told Keefe treats all of his players equally. He's stern with veterans as well as prospects, but also does a good job knowing when to pull back during a grinding season.

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Postby ScubaSteve » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:30 am

wonko80 wrote:It's total bias to what I just read sound awesome


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Postby B Kat » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:35 am

Hitchcock did a good job with the Stars this season. He instilled structure in all of these players' games and every one of them will be better for it. At the same time, being unable to motivate his players, I do think that was a big part our problematic season. I can't say if we didn't have enough talent or what, but their total lack of driiiiiiiiiiive was what killed them. I'm also glad that Hitchcock is remaining in the Stars organization.

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Re: The Ken Hitchcock Circle of Life is Complete -- no, I don't mean he's dead

Postby atticus ross » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:54 am

Thank Jeebus! And I hope to Jeebus they stay far away from AV.

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:02 am

That said, I'm actually fine with keeping Wilson given the improved defensive play. But, I bet the new coach will want different assistants.
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Re: The Ken Hitchcock Circle of Life is Complete -- no, I don't mean he's dead

Postby wonko80 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:03 am

ScubaSteve wrote:
wonko80 wrote:It's total bias to what I just read sound awesome


Wut

I stand by my statement.

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:16 am




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Yeah don't hire AV or it's going to be 6 in 9 or 10.

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Re: The Ken Hitchcock Circle of Life is Complete -- no, I don't mean he's dead

Postby ToddM » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:31 pm

KEEFE.

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:09 pm

Upon further reflection, I agree with the anti-AV crowd. Stay away.
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I'm sure Fraser is one Nill wants to keep.

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Re: The Ken Hitchcock Circle of Life is Complete -- no, I don't mean he's dead

Postby Jason » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:41 pm

There was rumors (since last summer) it was Gaglardi who hired Hitchcock, and Nill wanted Gallant.

Burnside mentioned it was Gaglardi who brought in Hitchcock.

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Re: The Ken Hitchcock Circle of Life is Complete -- no, I don't mean he's dead

Postby SaintAngerBH » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:29 pm

If that's true, that might explain why Nill wasn't immediately canned. Some of this is on Gaglardi, then.
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