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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby Troy McClure » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:19 am

*f-bomb* Tippet. If I'm going to watch boring hockey, it had better win the *fargin'* Cup. Let Tippet chase loser points with some other team.
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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby slaps » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:08 pm

I'm not interested in some re-tread. The Stars have a terrible habit of playing it safe (and an internal promotion problem), and it's gotten them nowhere. I'd prefer to see someone with new and fresh ideas, not another member of the NHL good ol' boys club.

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby ToddM » Tue May 08, 2018 8:22 am

Great little read from the guy who drafted Big Buff despite him being "too fat." The guy's got some axes to grind and names names, which makes it all the funnier:

https://theathletic.com/344668/2018/05/ ... to-a-star/

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby wonko80 » Tue May 08, 2018 8:52 am

ToddM wrote:Great little read from the guy who drafted Big Buff despite him being "too fat." The guy's got some axes to grind and names names, which makes it all the funnier:

https://theathletic.com/344668/2018/05/ ... to-a-star/

Yeah, he clearly does not like Bob Pulford.

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Re: Central Division Talk

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby Jason » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:12 am

Another defender with some serious interest: Pateryn. Don’t be surprised if he ends up somewhere in the $2-million range. Believe Minnesota is one interested party.

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby ToddM » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:31 am

Please let him go to a division rival.

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby SaintAngerBH » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:48 am

Good riddance. lol.
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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby cdanew » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:51 am

I've got nothing against Pateryn - he's a bottom pairing defenseman and in that role he's fine. Wouldn't want to pay $2m a year for him on this squad though.

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby Jason » Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:17 am



Trouba is looking for over $8 million a year.
So hopefully they do keep Statsny, then they'll have to pay Laine huge money.



The Coyotes need to fill cap hit of Pronger and Datsyuk.

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Re: Central Division Talk

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That's a lot to give up.


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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby B Kat » Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:33 am

That is a lot to give up for OReily. Was hoping he might be a good option for the Stars, but not at that price..

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Re: Central Division Talk

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby ScubaSteve » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:58 pm

Hosea will be great on a line with Datsyuk and Pronger.
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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby cdanew » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:19 pm

I absolutely hate that teams are allowed to circumvent the cap like this (unless and until the Stars somehow benefit from these types of schenanigans).

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby slaps » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:30 pm

cdanew wrote:I absolutely hate that teams are allowed to circumvent the cap like this (unless and until the Stars somehow benefit from these types of schenanigans).


Why? The NHL cap is stupid and useless and I fully support efforts to get around it.

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby ToddM » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:43 pm

cdanew wrote:I absolutely hate that teams are allowed to circumvent the cap like this (unless and until the Stars somehow benefit from these types of schenanigans).


That's basically the only reason we got Patrick Sharp and Stephen Johns.

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby Troy McClure » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:49 pm

I'm fine with this as long as the team soaking up the cap hit gets some decent return for doing so.
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Re: Central Division Talk

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby cdanew » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:31 pm

ToddM wrote:
cdanew wrote:I absolutely hate that teams are allowed to circumvent the cap like this (unless and until the Stars somehow benefit from these types of schenanigans).


That's basically the only reason we got Patrick Sharp and Stephen Johns.


That's apples and oranges. Getting rid of a useful player to save that player's salary cap hit is different from trading the cap hit of a retired player who will never put hockey gear on again.

(And it will be particularly galling if it allows Chicago to get Pacioretty)

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby SaintAngerBH » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:32 pm

slaps wrote:
cdanew wrote:I absolutely hate that teams are allowed to circumvent the cap like this (unless and until the Stars somehow benefit from these types of schenanigans).


Why? The NHL cap is stupid and useless and I fully support efforts to get around it.


This.

*f-bomb* the cap.
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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby Jason » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:27 pm

SaintAngerBH wrote:
slaps wrote:
cdanew wrote:I absolutely hate that teams are allowed to circumvent the cap like this (unless and until the Stars somehow benefit from these types of schenanigans).


Why? The NHL cap is stupid and useless and I fully support efforts to get around it.


This.

*f-bomb* the cap.


Without a cap Stars probably don't get Seguin.

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby ScubaSteve » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:33 pm

Without a cap the suns get in my eyes. Unless I have sunglasses.
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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby SaintAngerBH » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:51 pm

Really? How many suns?
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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby ScubaSteve » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:52 pm

At least one.
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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby wonko80 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:59 pm

I wouldn't hate on the cap too much. Gaglardi is not Hicks. We wouldn't be massive spenders if there wasn't a cap. Although I'll bet our playoff success would be about the same.

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby Knives Out » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:45 pm

wonko80 wrote:I wouldn't hate on the cap too much.

Yeah! They just won the Stanley Cup!
That Hanzal's so hurt right now.

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby cdanew » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:39 pm

wonko80 wrote:I wouldn't hate on the cap too much. Gaglardi is not Hicks. We wouldn't be massive spenders if there wasn't a cap. Although I'll bet our playoff success would be about the same.


An Athletic article earlier today discussed the structure of Ottawa's purported offer to Karlsson, particularly compared to Tavares. The gist of the article was that the lack of signing bonus money being offered by Ottawa was an impediment to getting the deal done. Tavares' deal gives him $44 million of his $77 million in the first 3 years of the contract - and the signing bonus structure is essentially lockout and buyout proof.

I thought this was interesting as it relates to the cap. Those types of structures give cash-rich teams an advantage over cash-poor teams, even if both are offering the exact same dollar amounts over the exact same term. Wonder where the Stars rank in the cash-rich/cash-poor universe?

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Re: Central Division Talk

Postby 5minmajor » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:38 pm

Poor, I imagine. How often do you eat at Moxie's?
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