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Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:41 pm
by Troy McClure
ToddM wrote:Coyotes defense lookin' sharp. I can't read the jersey numbers but I'm just going to assume these are all ex-Stars:



Edit: Goligoski was indeed the primary d-man on the play, and this was the third shorthanded goal the Coyotes allowed that game and the second allowed on that same power play.

That is mesmerizing.

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:03 pm
by cdanew
For anyone who has a subscription to The Athletic, Justin Bourne did a "systems analyst" piece on this play. He details all the breakdowns and lack of effort leading to the goal. I particularly enjoyed his description of the goalies role in the play:

https://theathletic.com/676372/2018/11/26/systems-analyst-the-calamitous-effort-that-led-to-the-coyotes-embarrassing-shorthanded-goal-against/

As you know, Jankowski rolls off Goligoski, takes it uncontested to the net and slips it five hole. I’ll refrain from going too deep on Raanta – that goaltending job is a specialty with a language only a few people speak well – but I’m not too shy to lay out my assumptions: It looks like he’s A), rightfully surprised he has to play goalie at all in this moment, given the situation. B) Worried about a short-side stuff play, and guarding against that, hugging the post. C) COME ON MAN, poke-check that guy for the love of god! Even if you don’t poke it away you take away his time and space and any shot attempt will probably deflect into your own chest.


He also has a freeze-frame analysis on Youtube:


Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:16 pm
by SaintAngerBH
Ah. "Ole stare at the ceiling" Goligoski strikes again...

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:54 pm
by ToddM
That was a surprisingly in-depth article for one play.

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:13 pm
by Troy McClure
The Bruins claimed Gemel Smith off of waivers today.

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:17 pm
by ScubaSteve
Who?

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:24 pm
by SaintAngerBH
Really stupid. Ritchie is the one who should be gone, not Smith.

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:26 pm
by Troy McClure
ScubaSteve wrote:Who?

He was the guy with a $720k cap hit who barely played yet has scored more goals than three forwards making a combined $7 million.

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:26 pm
by wonko80
Really both are equally expendable.

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:08 pm
by ToddM
That's too bad. Gemel is the ideal fourth-line "energy" forward. Even moreso than Elie.

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:16 pm
by SaintAngerBH
Gemel is significantly better than Ritchie (although that isn't saying much) and significantly cheaper than Nichushkin. I'm starting to really not like Nill although Monty is the one who decides to play Ritchie over Smith.

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:24 pm
by ScubaSteve
They think so little of Gemel that either they figured nobody would claim him on waivers, or they didn't care if he did get claimed. So he was never going to succeed here anyway. Normally I'm not in favor of giving up assets for nothing, but there are other players here that are also hot garbage, but this is no huge loss.

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:38 pm
by SaintAngerBH
No. But, I'm annoyed that we're still going to see a heavy diet of Ritchie and Nichushkin from now on.

lol. Brett Ritchie has more goals than Nichushkin now, by the way.

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:44 pm
by Troy McClure
We'll see about the rest of the season. If Hanzal stays healthy (I know, I know) and a few of these dudes remain unable to score at all, they might reach down the Cedar Park to try another body or two. To make those moves work, they'd have to waive/trade other guys.

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:23 am
by Knives Out
It seems like we spend a lot of time arguing over 4th line players, which I guess makes sense since that is most of our roster. I’m glad Smith is gone. There I said it. Now follow that up by putting five more guys on waivers.

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:20 am
by Troy McClure
Knives Out wrote:It seems like we spend a lot of time arguing over 4th line players, which I guess makes sense since that is most of our roster. I’m glad Smith is gone. There I said it. Now follow that up by putting five more guys on waivers.

People aregue about them because half of them are “prospects,” and a prospect is a mystery box. A prospect can be anything, but one thing is for sure — if only the coach would give your favorite one first line minutes, he’d be a star.

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:05 pm
by ScubaSteve
Home of those prospects might even turn out to be a boat.

Re: Former Stars Thread

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:45 pm
by ToddM
Well there's not a lot to argue and debate regarding guys like Seguin, Klingz, etc. They're known commodities. But 7th defensemen? Open season!!