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Re: NHL Expansion

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:53 pm
by Jason

Re: NHL Expansion

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:56 pm
by ToddM
I have a nagging feeling that Vegas will be a lottery team in two years.

Re: NHL Expansion

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:56 am
by Knives Out
Same. Their roster on paper really is garbage, and every coach has a shelf life, so what happens once they eventually start tuning Gallant out?
For now though, good for them! I love it.

Re: NHL Expansion

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:58 am
by Troy McClure
Their roster also has a number of guys having career years and hitting free agency this summer. Vegas is going to feel pressured to pay those guys big bucks, which could very quickly result in Vegas being very heavy in big contracts for guys who never again produce like they did this year.

Re: NHL Expansion

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:40 am
by ToddM
They also traded three picks for Tomas Tatar instead of dumping said overpaid/overproducing guys for picks.

Re: NHL Expansion

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:42 am
by B Kat
The Stars also have a number of players having career years. The broadcast put up a graphic in last night’s game. I wasn’t paying that much attention, but Seguin, Faksa, Johns and a few others.

That’s kind of the weird part about this team this year. It’s not like they are playing awful, slacking off or giving up. But they are still losing. Don’t tell me it’s just Kari, cuz while he’s been a factor in this slide, he’s not the sole reason for lack of success this season.

Re: NHL Expansion

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:12 am
by slaps
As much as I dislike Hitchcock, I would not be opposed to keeping Rick Wilson. He's done pretty well on the defense (speaking of Johns).

Re: NHL Expansion

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:04 am
by ToddM
Guys who have thrived under Hitch:
Seguin
Radulov
Klingberg
Lindell
Johns
Pitlick
Pateryn


Guys who have stayed more or less the same:
Janmark
Faksa
Hamhuis
Elie
Lehtonen
Bishop


Guys who have regressed under Hitch:
Benn
Spezza
Shore
Roussel
Ritchie
Hanzal
Honka
Dickinson
Methot

So it all kinda evens out. Seguin's 10 points-or-so jump is easily canceled out by Spezza totally cratering, for example.

Re: NHL Expansion

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:18 am
by #JTONTFJTGM
ToddM wrote:Guys who have regressed under Hitch:
Benn
Spezza

So it all kinda evens out. Seguin's 10 points-or-so jump is easily canceled out by Spezza totally cratering, for example.

In 77 games last season Benn scored 26 goals, 69 points and was -9. In 77 games this season he's scored 28 goals, 69 points and is +13.

Spezza's cratering began last season when he scored 15 goals, 50 points and was -18 in 68 games after he'd scored 33 goals, 63 points and was +4 in 75 games in 2015-'16.

Re: NHL Expansion

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:52 am
by ToddM
Yeah but with both of his linemates peaking, Benn's numbers *should* be better.

Spezza's decline started last season, sure, but 50 points in 68 games is still a pretty good clip. 7 goals in 73 games is less than our third-line d-man. Spezza alone has probably cost us a playoff spot, assuming we miss it by 1-3 points.

Re: NHL Expansion

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:03 pm
by SaintAngerBH
Benn's decline is not just about his numbers. As has been pointed out before, he doesn't take over games the way he did 3-4 years ago. He floats and scores sometimes. That's it.

Re: NHL Expansion

Posted: Sun May 13, 2018 12:47 am
by Jason
Probably will hear more of this in the future.
What's being discussed. Russo mentioned this another day.
If Arizona doesn't move, Colorado will get shifted to the Pacific, with Seattle being added.
Edmonton and Calgary will move to the Central.

If the Coyotes move to say Houston they'll join the Central.

Re: NHL Expansion

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 6:16 pm
by Jason