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Postby SaintAngerBH » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:48 am

No expansion makes the most sense of all.
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Postby Archangel972 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:29 pm

Quebec has formally applied for expansion. Just like the Jets, perhaps the Nordiques are on their way back.

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Postby Knives Out » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:58 pm

This sorta dashes my dreams of the team becoming Les Étoiles de Québec.

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Postby Troy McClure » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:40 am

Knives Out wrote:This sorta dashes my dreams of the team becoming Les Étoiles de Québec.


Another dream dashed... You won't get to cheer for the Toronto Other Guys

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Postby ScubaSteve » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:45 am

Seattle is still in the mix, and a much better contender than QC. There just isn't an arena deal done yet, so there's no point in any of the potential ownership groups paying $10 million to the NHL just because they decided to set an arbitrary deadline.
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Postby Troy McClure » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:51 am

Seattle would only be a short term home.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/ ... ly-big-one
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Postby ScubaSteve » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:57 am

I'm not even worried. Just get The Rock in there and he will protect our shiny new Seattle arena by singlehandedly defeated the earthquake with his fists.
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Postby ToddM » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:54 pm

Troy McClure wrote:Seattle would only be a short term home.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/ ... ly-big-one


Great read.

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Postby ToddM » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:00 pm

Wait, so all those earthquakes were set in motion by the invention of wine?

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Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:12 pm

I would like to submit the possible alternate hypothesis that the seismologists are just drunk.

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Postby ScubaSteve » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:52 pm

It has been all downhill since Hammurabi.
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Postby Troy McClure » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:03 pm

ToddM wrote:Wait, so all those earthquakes were set in motion by the invention of wine?

Really, it was every time one of your ancestors touched themselves.
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Postby Troy McClure » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:07 pm

As noted by DownGoesBrown, the NHL's press release is really pissy. The NHL only got two applications, and they are obviously very annoyed by it.

Apparently, only Mr. Foley and Quebecor have the confidence in their ability to secure an arena and suitable ownership capability to move forward with this process.

We now intend to focus exclusively on the two expansion applications that have been submitted in accordance with the previously announced process. The process we have outlined for qualified applicants includes at least two more stages of documentation submission. We will provide no further updates until there is something substantive to announce.


Update on NHL expansion application process
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=775295

I guess the NHL expected a bunch of people to fork over $10 million (with $2 million being nonrefundable) all for the privilege of finding out if they can possibly be considered as a future NHL location. Let's see... I can give the NHL $10 million, or I can wait for the Coyotes to fall apart and give the NHL nothing to take that problem off their hands.
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Postby slaps » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:28 pm

Troy McClure wrote:As noted by DownGoesBrown, the NHL's press release is really pissy. The NHL only got two applications, and they are obviously very annoyed by it.

Apparently, only Mr. Foley and Quebecor have the confidence in their ability to secure an arena and suitable ownership capability to move forward with this process.

We now intend to focus exclusively on the two expansion applications that have been submitted in accordance with the previously announced process. The process we have outlined for qualified applicants includes at least two more stages of documentation submission. We will provide no further updates until there is something substantive to announce.


Update on NHL expansion application process
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=775295

I guess the NHL expected a bunch of people to fork over $10 million (with $2 million being nonrefundable) all for the privilege of finding out if they can possibly be considered as a future NHL location. Let's see... I can give the NHL $10 million, or I can wait for the Coyotes to fall apart and give the NHL nothing to take that problem off their hands.


Don't forget the expansion fee of $500MM, which is about double the average value of an NHL team.

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Postby ScubaSteve » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:31 pm

$10 million up front with no guarantee, plus a looming $500 million expansion fee, plus $300-500 million to build an arena. Oh yeah, and then you actually have to pay your players $75 million or whatever the cap is now. This whole process isn't cheap, and it's silly to ask potential owners to start ponying up cash with no guarantees.

However, I also understand that the league doesn't want to get Spano'd again. So you want some proof that the rich guys who are trying to buy into your league are actually rich this time.
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Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:35 pm

I say we do this thing. Who wants to setup the kickstarter page?

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Postby Troy McClure » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:47 pm

I wish we had access to the application. I would have enjoyed submitting one with an IOU stapled to it.
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Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:51 pm

Yes, TSF definitely would need to submit one as a board project.

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Postby Troy McClure » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:00 pm

As long as we all agree the arena is to be named Fort Awesome.
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Postby slaps » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:06 pm

Can we have the team logo be the Flayed Man of Fort Awesome, only upside down on crossed hockey sticks?

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1. Collect underpants
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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby Knives Out » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:41 pm

Can you yanks explain to me why Las Vegas doesn't have a single pro sports team (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL)?
I mean, I get that it's a desert with strict drug laws, but surely its population can take pride and sustain just ONE of those without having to rely on beligerent drunken tourists right?

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Postby ScubaSteve » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:49 pm

All the money in Vegas is transient.
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Postby Knives Out » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:55 pm

So it goes both ways?

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Postby ScubaSteve » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:02 pm

Yes.
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Postby 5minmajor » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:12 pm

City population is less than 600k and the entire metro area is only the 30th in size in the US, putting it at the very edge of the size of areas that have teams
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Postby Knives Out » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:21 pm

Oh. I had no idea the population was that low and the downtown area that small! I'm only familiar with TV/movie Vegas, so a lot of bright lights, pawn shops and shitty tattoo parlours.

LOL that description already sounds better than Phoenix.

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