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NHL Expansion

Postby Jason » Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:48 am

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Q: What the latest on NHL expansion? Where and when?

McKenzie: The NHL party line hasn't changed. There are no formal plans for expansion but if they expand and everyone assumes at some point, they're going to, the common knowledge is that Seattle is the primary target in the Pacific Northwest. ]The strong sense I'm getting now is that Las Vegas is second on that *list behind Seattle and the NHL wants to be the first major professional sports league to put a franchise in Las Vegas. People in Quebec City may be saying, 'Hey, what about us?' Well, keep in mind, there's not rule that says if they expand, that they only expand by two teams. The possibility of expanding by three teams, with Quebec City being one of them, is at least something that will be considered. There's lots of money in expansion; over $300 million per franchise, close to a $1 billion winfall that isn't shared with the players or anyone else, just the owners.

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:17 am

Seattle and Vegas seem like some pretty weak markets. Quebec City? Come on now.

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Postby B Kat » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:21 am

There are already too many teams. Dollars are nice but keep expanding and an already diluted product will become more so.

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby ScubaSteve » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:21 am

Seattle fills a 60k seat stadium for freaking MLS soccer every week. It's a good sports town, and they're about to get a brand spanking new NHL/NBA venue built. They're getting a team.
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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby wonko80 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:23 am

I don't mind Seattle getting a team. There are probably enough Canadian transplants there to make it work.

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Postby starsfan18 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:38 am

I want Seattle to get a team so that if I have to relocate there some day, I'll have a local product and the ability to see the Stars 2-4 times a year or so.

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Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:40 am

Soccer is kind of the exception and not the rule in Seattle. No one understands why it works so well there.

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Postby ScubaSteve » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:42 am

Seattle losing the Sonics was a complete screw job, which is why the NBA is about to put another team back there. It had nothing to do with the market.
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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby wonko80 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:43 am

Don't they also have one of the best home team crowds for football?

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:48 am

ScubaSteve wrote:Seattle losing the Sonics was a complete screw job, which is why the NBA is about to put another team back there. It had nothing to do with the market.


True.

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:35 am

B Kat wrote:There are already too many teams. Dollars are nice but keep expanding and an already diluted product will become more so.


I wholeheartedly agree. I am actually in favor of shrinking back down to 28 or 26.
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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:42 am

A more "diluted" product imo is just as likely to increase scoring and perceived quality of the product. I'm not sure that matters too much to me. The reason why every Dallas/Winnipeg game is about 10 goals is those teams don't have much talent.

The end result, however, would be fewer teams have that excitement of getting to the playoffs every season. That would kind of suck.

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Postby starsfan18 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:46 am

The Frugal Gourmet wrote:A more "diluted" product imo is just as likely to increase scoring and perceived quality of the product. I'm not sure that matters too much to me. The reason why every Dallas/Winnipeg game is about 10 goals is those teams don't have much talent.

The end result, however, would be fewer teams have that excitement of getting to the playoffs every season. That would kind of suck.


I bet they'll go to an MLB play-in model.

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby ToddM » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:50 am

I welcome another terrible expansion team into our division. We could use the free points.

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Postby 5minmajor » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:26 pm

Why would fewer teams make the playoffs?
A lower % of the total but not fewer teams.
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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:39 pm

5minmajor wrote:Why would fewer teams make the playoffs?
A lower % of the total but not fewer teams.


Yes. A lower percentage.

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Postby Phats » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:50 pm

ScubaSteve wrote:Seattle fills a 60k seat stadium for freaking MLS soccer every week. It's a good sports town, and they're about to get a brand spanking new NHL/NBA venue built. They're getting a team.



Remember when Atlanta was all gung-ho about hockey? Twice?
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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby SaintAngerBH » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:58 pm

Phats wrote:
ScubaSteve wrote:Seattle fills a 60k seat stadium for freaking MLS soccer every week. It's a good sports town, and they're about to get a brand spanking new NHL/NBA venue built. They're getting a team.



Remember when Atlanta was all gung-ho about hockey? Twice?


No.
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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby CycloneGU » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:19 pm

5minmajor wrote:Why would fewer teams make the playoffs?
A lower % of the total but not fewer teams.

I was about to quip about how 16 teams still make the playoffs.

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby Jason » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:49 pm

Seattle NHL team soon? Bettman says it would be 'pretty fun'

The league is reportedly expected to issue a letter of intent for a Seattle expansion team.

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby ScubaSteve » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:56 pm

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:39 pm

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Postby CycloneGU » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:29 am

Jason wrote:Seattle NHL team soon? Bettman says it would be 'pretty fun'

The league is reportedly expected to issue a letter of intent for a Seattle expansion team.

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby Jason » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:00 pm

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Bettman says he continues to get #nhl expansion interest from Seattle, Vegas, Kansas City, Quebec City

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Postby Troy McClure » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:23 pm

He throws the last one in to troll Canadians.
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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby ToddM » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:28 pm

I'm all for two expansion teams in the West.

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby CycloneGU » Tue Mar 04, 2014 2:21 am

Troy McClure wrote:He throws the last one in to troll Canadians Quebecors.

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby Jason » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:44 pm

Shoalts: Conference imbalance works in favour of Seattle and Las Vegas
As reported earlier in this space, Seattle, Las Vegas and Quebec City are the cities in play when it comes to NHL expansion.

A priority for Bettman is eliminating the imbalance between the Eastern Conference, which has 16 teams, and the Western Conference, which has 14.

The plan is to add two teams in the west – which leaves Quebec as the long-shot even though it is the only city of the three to have an arena under construction.

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby CycloneGU » Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:58 pm

Jason wrote:Shoalts: Conference imbalance works in favour of Seattle and Las Vegas
As reported earlier in this space, Seattle, Las Vegas and Quebec City are the cities in play when it comes to NHL expansion.

A priority for Bettman is eliminating the imbalance between the Eastern Conference, which has 16 teams, and the Western Conference, which has 14.

The plan is to add two teams in the west – which leaves Quebec as the long-shot even though it is the only city of the three to have an arena under construction.

Give one to Quebec and move Detroit back to the West. Problem solved.

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby CycloneGU » Tue May 13, 2014 5:32 pm

@theScore wrote:Report: Gary Bettman, Bill Daly went to Seattle to meet with Mayor, King County Executive

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There are older stories below about Seattle's NHL activities.

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