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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby ToddM » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:56 pm

I have a nagging feeling that Vegas will be a lottery team in two years.

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Postby Knives Out » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:56 am

Same. Their roster on paper really is garbage, and every coach has a shelf life, so what happens once they eventually start tuning Gallant out?
For now though, good for them! I love it.
That Hanzal's so hurt right now.

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Postby Troy McClure » Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:58 am

Their roster also has a number of guys having career years and hitting free agency this summer. Vegas is going to feel pressured to pay those guys big bucks, which could very quickly result in Vegas being very heavy in big contracts for guys who never again produce like they did this year.
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Postby ToddM » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:40 am

They also traded three picks for Tomas Tatar instead of dumping said overpaid/overproducing guys for picks.

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Postby B Kat » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:42 am

The Stars also have a number of players having career years. The broadcast put up a graphic in last night’s game. I wasn’t paying that much attention, but Seguin, Faksa, Johns and a few others.

That’s kind of the weird part about this team this year. It’s not like they are playing awful, slacking off or giving up. But they are still losing. Don’t tell me it’s just Kari, cuz while he’s been a factor in this slide, he’s not the sole reason for lack of success this season.

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Postby slaps » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:12 am

As much as I dislike Hitchcock, I would not be opposed to keeping Rick Wilson. He's done pretty well on the defense (speaking of Johns).

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Postby ToddM » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:04 am

Guys who have thrived under Hitch:
Seguin
Radulov
Klingberg
Lindell
Johns
Pitlick
Pateryn


Guys who have stayed more or less the same:
Janmark
Faksa
Hamhuis
Elie
Lehtonen
Bishop


Guys who have regressed under Hitch:
Benn
Spezza
Shore
Roussel
Ritchie
Hanzal
Honka
Dickinson
Methot

So it all kinda evens out. Seguin's 10 points-or-so jump is easily canceled out by Spezza totally cratering, for example.

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Postby #JTONTFJTGM » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:18 am

ToddM wrote:Guys who have regressed under Hitch:
Benn
Spezza

So it all kinda evens out. Seguin's 10 points-or-so jump is easily canceled out by Spezza totally cratering, for example.

In 77 games last season Benn scored 26 goals, 69 points and was -9. In 77 games this season he's scored 28 goals, 69 points and is +13.

Spezza's cratering began last season when he scored 15 goals, 50 points and was -18 in 68 games after he'd scored 33 goals, 63 points and was +4 in 75 games in 2015-'16.

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby ToddM » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:52 am

Yeah but with both of his linemates peaking, Benn's numbers *should* be better.

Spezza's decline started last season, sure, but 50 points in 68 games is still a pretty good clip. 7 goals in 73 games is less than our third-line d-man. Spezza alone has probably cost us a playoff spot, assuming we miss it by 1-3 points.

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:03 pm

Benn's decline is not just about his numbers. As has been pointed out before, he doesn't take over games the way he did 3-4 years ago. He floats and scores sometimes. That's it.
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Postby Jason » Sun May 13, 2018 12:47 am

Probably will hear more of this in the future.
What's being discussed. Russo mentioned this another day.
If Arizona doesn't move, Colorado will get shifted to the Pacific, with Seattle being added.
Edmonton and Calgary will move to the Central.

If the Coyotes move to say Houston they'll join the Central.

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby Troy McClure » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:36 am

Dear scuba.

I am so so sorry.

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Postby SaintAngerBH » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:44 am

"Here is how to lose your way to almost getting into the playoffs."
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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby Knives Out » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:28 pm

PROTECT THE ONE GOAL DEFICIT IS BACK, BABY!
That Hanzal's so hurt right now.

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby ScubaSteve » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:36 pm

Troy McClure wrote:Dear scuba.

I am so so sorry.



Shitting on Tippett is pretty revisionist. He was only a trap guy when the team went bankrupt and was so strapped for talent that he was forced to play the likes of Steve Ott in a top line role. The team was pretty dynamic his first few years. And he only missed the playoffs one time while here.
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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby SaintAngerBH » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:26 pm

ScubaSteve wrote:
Troy McClure wrote:Dear scuba.

I am so so sorry.



Shitting on Tippett is pretty revisionist. He was only a trap guy when the team went bankrupt and was so strapped for talent that he was forced to play the likes of Steve Ott in a top line role. The team was pretty dynamic his first few years. And he only missed the playoffs one time while here.


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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby 5minmajor » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:53 pm

ScubaSteve wrote:
Troy McClure wrote:Dear scuba.

I am so so sorry.



Shitting on Tippett is pretty revisionist. He was only a trap guy when the team went bankrupt and was so strapped for talent that he was forced to play the likes of Steve Ott in a top line role. The team was pretty dynamic his first few years. And he only missed the playoffs one time while here.

Sounds like Trump has taken over Scuba's account.
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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby Troy McClure » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:39 pm

I think it's more him not wanting to upset the Seattle ownership group.
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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby slaps » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:15 pm

Tippett consistently made the playoffs, then failed to adapt his playing style and bowed out in the first round (mostly).

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Re: NHL Expansion

Postby mookie1010 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:50 pm

slaps wrote:Tippett consistently made the playoffs, then failed to adapt his playing style and bowed out in the first round (mostly).

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