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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby Troy McClure » Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:02 pm

mookie1010 wrote:
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mookie1010 wrote:I still can't believe we know absolutely nothing about this.

IJB hinted at it being Monty being recorded fondling some boobs while partying.

Oh, wow, I somehow missed that. I listened to both episodes this weekend.

Remember the story of the LAPD officer who turned off his body cam but didn't realize they keep recording for two minutes after the off button is pressed? Well, he didn't know he was recorded fondling the boobs of a dead woman. TC asked if the officer's name was Jim Montgomery, and Jake went into full "I'm going to pretend we aren't talking about this" mode.
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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:20 pm

Do you think they really know though or heard the same rumor?

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby mookie1010 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:20 pm

Troy McClure wrote:
mookie1010 wrote:
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mookie1010 wrote:I still can't believe we know absolutely nothing about this.

IJB hinted at it being Monty being recorded fondling some boobs while partying.

Oh, wow, I somehow missed that. I listened to both episodes this weekend.

Remember the story of the LAPD officer who turned off his body cam but didn't realize they keep recording for two minutes after the off button is pressed? Well, he didn't know he was recorded fondling the boobs of a dead woman. TC asked if the officer's name was Jim Montgomery, and Jake went into full "I'm going to pretend we aren't talking about this" mode.

OK - I remember that, but didn't make that inference. I'm probably just dumb.
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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby Troy McClure » Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:37 pm

The Frugal Gourmet wrote:Do you think they really know though or heard the same rumor?

No idea. Sounds like TC got it from some guy they know named Chris (I believe), but it's impossible to know how close to accurate any of the rumors are.

I think that's partly why no national guy is giving any detail in their "I know but I won't say *nudge nudge* *wink wink* article. They're all waiting for someone else to stick their neck out and break the story.
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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:40 pm

Ah, so the original rumor originated from Mookie. How ironic.

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby mookie1010 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:47 pm

The Frugal Gourmet wrote:Ah, so the original rumor originated from Mookie. How ironic.

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby ScubaSteve » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:25 pm

So I guess we are done here?
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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby wonko80 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:34 pm

If only we knew an employee of the team to ask for inside info.

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby djbrown » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:41 pm

A "J. Monty" being on Santa's revised naughty list as the broadcast ended after the final whistle was funny at least

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby Math » Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:07 am

ScubaSteve wrote:So I guess we are done here?

No, Monty as the new guru of the Branch Davidians' reminiscence hasn't been listed yet.

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby B Kat » Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:52 am

He’s not really that charismatic though.

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby SaintAngerBH » Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:58 am



More stuff that aged like milk.

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby SaintAngerBH » Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:36 am

According to Brett Hulls brother, Montgomery was caught on video doing cocaine and partying during the last road trip of his tenure. The video was taken by a Stars employee and given directly to Jim Nill when the investigation was launched. Monty also missed a practice a few days earlier after a long night of partying. Take this with a grain of salt, but it's coming from a reliable source that knows all the higher ups in the organization.

From the way Bart was talking it sounds like this was an issue Monty was already warned about, and getting caught on video was the final straw.

From reddit poster TILTstars.

I'm inclined to call this bullshit since Nill said it wasn't illegal.

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby wonko80 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:44 am

Is it illegal to do cocaine, or just to possess it? Like if you were drug tested and it was positive for cocaine, can you be legally punished?

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby mookie1010 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:56 am

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According to Brett Hulls brother, Montgomery was caught on video doing cocaine and partying during the last road trip of his tenure. The video was taken by a Stars employee and given directly to Jim Nill when the investigation was launched. Monty also missed a practice a few days earlier after a long night of partying. Take this with a grain of salt, but it's coming from a reliable source that knows all the higher ups in the organization.

From the way Bart was talking it sounds like this was an issue Monty was already warned about, and getting caught on video was the final straw.

From reddit poster TILTstars.

I'm inclined to call this bullshit since Nill said it wasn't illegal.

Nill was kinda mealy-mouthed about whether it was criminal, IIRC.
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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby wonko80 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:00 pm

Also, the phrase "do cocaine" is weird. Why do some drugs use the actual action taken to ingest them, but others are just do, doing, done? Why isn't it common to refer to it as snorted cocaine?

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby Math » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:02 pm

:heisen

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby Troy McClure » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:04 pm

mookie1010 wrote:
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According to Brett Hulls brother, Montgomery was caught on video doing cocaine and partying during the last road trip of his tenure. The video was taken by a Stars employee and given directly to Jim Nill when the investigation was launched. Monty also missed a practice a few days earlier after a long night of partying. Take this with a grain of salt, but it's coming from a reliable source that knows all the higher ups in the organization.

From the way Bart was talking it sounds like this was an issue Monty was already warned about, and getting caught on video was the final straw.

From reddit poster TILTstars.

I'm inclined to call this bullshit since Nill said it wasn't illegal.

Nill was kinda mealy-mouthed about whether it was criminal, IIRC.

Yeah, same here. I think Nill was clear about how police weren't involved, but Nill never said anything about whether what Monty did was legal or illegal.
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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby wonko80 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:07 pm

Which could also have been interpreted as "the police aren't currently involved".

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby mookie1010 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:11 pm

If this is true, would Dallas be the only town with two head coaches busted doing coke?
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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby BigAl » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:14 pm

Where have we heard this theory before?

Oh, right.

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby cdanew » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:19 pm

With the extraordinarily short time period for the investigation Montgomery either had to have admitted to whatever conduct was in question or there was incontrovertible video/photo evidence. Given that they terminated him for cause that quickly, I'd like to at least think it was pretty cut and dried.

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby wonko80 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:25 pm

cdanew wrote:I'd like to at least think it was pretty cut and dried.

Cocaine usually is.

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby cdanew » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:35 pm

:nice

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby BigAl » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:38 pm

I wonder how many coaches have been nervously wiping their noses since this got out.
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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby Archangel972 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:44 pm

mookie1010 wrote:If this is true, would Dallas be the only town with two head coaches busted doing coke?

First Tom Landry and now this, what a shame.

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby mookie1010 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:51 pm

I thought I remembered this. I'd be surprised - but not upset if the league has seen video of him doing coke and immediately saying he can continue coaching in the league.

mookie1010 wrote:Bob says that Monty has been cleared to continue coaching in the league, so I think that effectively rules out gambling and drugs.
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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby B Kat » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:57 pm

I buy the story, it would make sense. But I kinda doubt his reputation didn't precede him. So, idk.

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby cdanew » Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:27 pm

I also want to know who the source was who had Jim Nill's direct phone number. Maybe that isn't how it happened, but the story they have told sure seemed to imply the informant/complainant called Nill directly on a Sunday evening. Not just everyone has that kind of access.

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Re: Jim Montgomery Fired

Postby SaintAngerBH » Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:05 pm

Maybe Bowness sabotaged him so he could take over.

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