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Re: Trade Talk

Postby Knives Out » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:03 pm

Jason wrote:

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby Troy McClure » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:54 pm

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Maybe. It’s hard to find a pattern considering he was a seller at the deadline two of his four seasons as GM. Even his first season, they weren’t buyers because they barely made the playoffs.

What we don’t know is whether he’s under the gun to have the Stars make a splash in the playoffs. This is year five, and there has only been one playoff series win. Gaglardi spent big to consume every penny of cap space. You wonder if Gaglardi has put real expectations in place. Even a patient GM will go against their usual behavior if they feel like their job is on the line.
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Re: Trade Talk

Postby slaps » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:55 pm

I don’t think the price for a decent top-six forward is going to be as high as it has been in other years.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:31 pm

The Stars aren't legitimate Cup contenders so there's no reason to trade for a rental.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby BigAl » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:38 pm

I ok with trading a 1st round pick for a rental, since 96.4% of Stars 1st picks are busts anyway.
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Re: Trade Talk

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:42 pm

But a first rounder could be anything.

Even a rental.

You know how we've always wanted one of those.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby ToddM » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:47 am

As long as we don't give up our 5th rounder. That would be catastrophic.

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Re: Trade Talk

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Larry Brooks wrote:Rick Nash’s 12-team approved trade list cuts across the border and could be expanded upon further review, No. 61 told Slap Shots on Saturday.

“I included the teams that I think have the best chance of winning the Stanley Cup and are also places I think would be good for my family,” the 33-year-old father of two young children said. “And, yes, that does include teams in Canada. I’m not excluding that as a possibility.”

It is believed teams not on the list have been in touch with Joe Resnick, the pending free agent’s agent, to inquire whether Nash might be persuaded into adding them to the mix.

“I’m not sure if that’s been the case yet. It’s been pretty quiet on my end up to now,” Nash said. “I’m not going to include 30 teams, but I would take a look if that came up. I was asked to pick a certain number of teams, but I don’t want to say anything is off-limits.

“It’s a weird situation for me. I could be going someplace for a few months, but I also might wind up staying with a new contract, too. If I’m not wanted here, I’m open to anything.”

Nash invoked that phrase, “If I’m not wanted here,” a couple of times. He caught himself, paused, then amended it.

“I shouldn’t really say that in that way,” he said. “I learned at an early age not to take these things personally. There is no organization in the league that treats its players better than this one does.

“But it’s no secret what the plan is here now. They held a press conference and sent out a letter to tell everyone. If they can get younger players and draft picks for me, then I won’t be here. It’s part of this business.”

There is no more attractive top-six, complete-game, secondary-scoring winger available on the rental market. The Rangers need to maximize the return for Nash, with NHL-ready quality rather than accept only late first-rounders and mid-level prospects coming back. Dallas, Nashville, San Jose and St. Louis have expressed interest. Boston is in. Winnipeg, where the Rangers play Sunday afternoon, may be interested; Tampa Bay, too. Toronto could be, as well, but seems reluctant to jump into the pool head-first.

“I’ve never been in this spot before,” said the 15-year veteran who is in his sixth year with the Rangers. “When I was traded here [from Columbus in July 2012], I had a complete no-move, so different options were presented to me that I could either approve or veto. This is different.”

Nash, who has scored in consecutive games, has recorded eight goals in the past 12 11 matches and 17 overall. He is doing what he can to play with a clear mind, but it hasn’t necessarily been that simple. It’s clear, too, Nash has been stung by it.

“I kind of knew it was coming, but still, the first couple of days [after they asked for the list] were tough, for sure,” he said. “Imagine if your boss told you that they were sending you to another paper, but they couldn’t tell you exactly where, and as long as you were still at [The Post] to make sure you wrote your best articles.

“It’s weird. But as long as I am a Ranger, I’m going to play my hardest and do my best. I’m playing for the guys in the room, I’m playing for the Ranger logo, and I’m playing for the fans who spend their money to watch us. To me, that what comes with being a pro.”

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby ToddM » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:04 pm

Max Domi, who somehow only has 4 goals in 56 games, might be available.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby Troy McClure » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:12 pm

The Domi thing has been odd. They decided to try to make him a center, but it's not working out that well.
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Re: Trade Talk

Postby ScubaSteve » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:13 pm

4 goals in 56 games? Those are Brett Ritchie numbers. We definite need more interchangeable 4th line scrubs, let's get him in here.
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Re: Trade Talk

Postby ToddM » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:45 pm

Hard to tell whether he sucks, or his team sucks and he's getting residual suckage. Still worth taking a flyer on for the right price, tho.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby wonko80 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:37 pm

How many goals does he have in the NHL compared to Nichushkin?

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby Troy McClure » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:39 pm

wonko80 wrote:How many goals does he have in the NHL compared to Nichushkin?

#DIV/0!
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Re: Trade Talk

Postby #JTONTFJTGM » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:56 pm

wonko80 wrote:How many goals does he have in the NHL compared to Nichushkin?

31 goals in 196 games (13 per 82 games) to 23 goals in 166 games (11.4 per 82 games) for Nichushkin who also scored one goal in 16 playoff games.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby wonko80 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:14 pm

I meant this season.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:23 pm

No trades. We just lost to Vancouver 6-0. Time to blow this thing up. Seguin and Benn for draft picks.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby Troy McClure » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:37 pm

The Frugal Gourmet wrote:No trades. We just lost to Vancouver 6-0. Time to blow this thing up. Seguin and Benn for draft picks.

Speaking of, a recent article is asking the question about them: do they Stars want to be tied to Benn-Seguin-Radulov as a massive chunk of their cap for the next five seasons?

Seguin is a UFA next summer, so it’s time for the Stars to start talking extension with him this offseason if they do want to commit to him as a $10 million a season player. The cap hits of the three of them wouldn’t be quite as high as what the Pens are paying Crosby, Malkin, and Kessel or even what the Blackhawks are paying Kane, Toews, and Saad. The Pens have shown you can win Cups with top heavy teams.
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Re: Trade Talk

Postby The Frugal Gourmet » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:47 pm

Whoa. Things just got serious.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby ToddM » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:07 pm

Are you asking if we should build our team around three point-per-game players in their prime?

Not me. Give me Ott and Burish any day.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby wonko80 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:42 pm

Again, I think they should trade Benn. I see his production falling off. He keeps getting slower and less able to make good decisions with the puck.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby cdanew » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:42 pm

wonko80 wrote:Again, I think they should trade Benn. I see his production falling off. He keeps getting slower and less able to make good decisions with the puck.


You do know that's not happening, right? :)

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby ToddM » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:45 pm

wonko80 wrote:Again, I think they should trade Benn. I see his production falling off. He keeps getting slower and less able to make good decisions with the puck.


Disagree. Even Slow Benn is still one of the top five left wingers in the league, behind Ovechkin and Gaudreau, and about the same as Taylor Hall. And it's not like there's anybody better at LW, either in our farm system or the free agent pool.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby slaps » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:08 pm

That’s...not a huge return.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby ScubaSteve » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:16 pm

Aren't Phaneuf and Gaborik both used up?
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Re: Trade Talk

Postby B Kat » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:33 pm

Yes.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby slaps » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:52 pm

But Gaborik is like Lindsey Lohan used up.

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Re: Trade Talk

Postby ToddM » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:43 am

Jason wrote:


Wait... isn't the point of a "rebuild" to get younger and cheaper?

Nill needs to get on the phone with Ottawa ASAP.

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